On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Leo Mauler webgiant@yahoo.com wrote:
--- Charles Steinkuehler charles@steinkuehler.net wrote:
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James Sissel wrote:
| (for example, only [[members of a certain | religion]] can cast our demons)
Really? Only [[members of a certain religion]] can do that? Or maybe a better question should be "Can [[members of a certain religion]] really do that?" What proof do you have that *anybody* can or can't do that? Or for that matter, what proof do you have demons even exist?
Of course daemons exist...how else would you run apache, nfs, ntp, &c.
However, I thought all you had to do to banish a daemon was a simple 'kill -9', or if you're feeling more friendly, perhaps an
~ /etc/init.d/<daemon> stop
Now you're telling me I have to involve [[a certain religion]]?!? Is there some way I can do that from a shell script, or do I have to make direct calls to the kernel?
I looked, but I can't seem to find a man page for anything that looks like an 'exorcise' utility or syscall. :-(
Linux looks at daemons differently from [a certain religion]. Linux daemons are considered useful most of the time. When they start destroying your partition records (so that you know that the daemon has hidden that picture of your mother in there somewhere) and start spewing "stuff" all over your hard drive, then you reach for the kill command. However, you then do your best to bring back the daemon, to "re-possess" your computer at the earliest available opportunity.
"Exorcisms" try to drive out daemons completely, such that they do not return. An "exorcise" command in Linux would be a shell script which killed the daemon and then deleted the daemon's executable, which is completely antithetical to the proper operation of Linux.
Not to mention a sure way to go straight to "dependency hell". ]:-)
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So what you're saying is, we should be calling them Spierits?