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Re: Trojan Found
by Brian Kelsay 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Did you finally restore from backup or something? I didn't hear how you got it back up. You said it was in AZ or someplace far away. Just curious what got you to the point you could talk to the machine. These kind of stories are like trashy novels for geeks. Brian Kelsay >>> Jonathan Hutchins <> 02/25/05 01:50PM >>> I found a trojan running on my server today - rootedoor (http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/content/v_128116.htm). Couldn't find much information about it on the web. If you know anything specific about it (not general speculation on rootkits, trojans, etc.), I would appreciate you sharing it with the list. I detected it running as one of the last two processes listed by 'ps ax' just before a reboot to install a new kernel; the reboot seems to have eliminated all traces of it from the system. I found a number of missing or corrupt Perl modules on the system, but that may not be related, it's an old system and I've had some Perl issues before. This _is_ the system that suddenly lost all it's files Sunday night, so it could have been hacked before.

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Server Status Update
by Chris Bier 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, ~ The server seems to be running fine now. The only thing left to fix is the Feb archives. The HTML seems to be borked, but all of the archives are still there. We should have that back soon. Please, let us know if there's something on the site that's not working. Chris - -- I digitally sign my emails. If you see an attachment with .asc, then that means your email client doesn't support PGP digital signatures. http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/faqs.html#q1.1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCHMA5E5xXU3JS1mQRAlvLAKCKm3DmnycVJPpCxJD2cbzU3JA9SwCgqc2K aItRO7W3TvVi+gsYJZKqZYA= =Yj5s -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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For us hardware geeks
by Brian Kelsay 22 Feb '05

22 Feb '05

http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/SCSI-voodoo.html http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/E/examining-the-entrails.html Brian Kelsay

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high volume mail server
by Brian Kelsay 22 Feb '05

22 Feb '05

Just noticed that Yahoo uses QMail from this failure notice. I sent something to a bogus address so I can put real addresses in BCC only. With the number of users they have, qmail must be pretty tough. Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. Brian Kelsay

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test
by Charles, Joshua Micah (UMKC-Student) 22 Feb '05

22 Feb '05

Is the mail working? Josh

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RE: PHP versus ASP.NET WAS: Test Hosting Recommendation
by Brian Kelsay 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

That is exactly what I was thinking after this thread started yesterday. Although I'm not a programmer I am getting into some scripting. I use Wise scripting at work for some things and it is pretty customized to the way you build an .msi, but I suppose like any scripting language it could be used for more than it was originally designed. Anyway, I'm using WiseScript to build an installer for a program called Rational Development Studio and Rational has Perl 5.6.1 as a component that Websphere developers can use. Point being that, as far as I know, Perl works the same on a Winders box as it does on a *nix box. There is that trouble with file paths having the "/" going the wrong direction on Winders, but I'm sure there is a decent workaround in Perl. If I could just read Perl I might understand, but Perl looks to me like some secret code. So, please someone turn Mono/.Net into something positive that is truly multi-platform, multi-language, etc. Don't just give the whole thing lip service and compromise on functionality and principals. That is why I will wait and see before I install either Mono or .Net, unless I absolutely have to. Brian Kelsay >>> "Brian Densmore" <> 02/16/05 04:56PM >>> One more thing. I am all for using mono to embrace .Net and c#. I believe we should take this opportunity to "embrace and extend" .net and c#. We should add features to ..net and to c# to make it better, faster and more useful for the world at large. We should make these features available via GPL. What better way to take away Microsoft market share than by using their own tactics against them. Plus if we add features we can be sure they really do work in cross-browser/platforms, and they are the features that we really want and are useful.

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Server Crashing Question
by Charles, Joshua Micah (UMKC-Student) 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

I'm currently working on a php project which I have recently loaded onto the production server. This server hosts several websites (19); my project is only related to one of these. Since I've uploaded this code, their server has crashed repeatedly, after never crashing my development machine. The owner thinks these crashes are related to my code, but admit that it could also be caused by a large increase in traffic over the last few days. Now, all I'm able to really know is my code (written in php). I would nearly guarantee that my code is not causing the problem. The only way, I would say, that it could be doing it would be an over load of the connections to the MySQL server. What I'm looking for is the opinion of someone with more experience administering servers. Is traffic the most likely cause of the problem? Thanks, Josh

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Re: Java and other environments
by Brian Kelsay 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

I'll go one better. Java: More than a Headache, Less than a Migraine. Brian Kelsay >>> Aaron Spiegel <spiegela(a)gmail.com> 02/18/05 10:20AM >>> > Java is more than a programming language, but less than an OS. I like that. Java: More than a State Less than a Nation.

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RE: Java and other environments
by Brian Densmore 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: csappenfield > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jonathan Hutchins > > > On Thursday 17 February 2005 03:42 pm, Jeremy Turner wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 11:08:53AM -0600, Jonathan Hutchins wrote: > > > > > > Java is a virtual operating system that can be installed on > > top of > > > > other operating systems. As an OS, it's somewhat limited and > > > > specialized, but that's what the "Virtual Machine" in > java is all > > > > about. > > > > > I wouldn't call Java an operating system, in the typical sense > > of the > > > word. > > > > I again refer you to the concept of the Java Virtual Machine. > > A JVM is an abstraction of an OS, just as an OS is an > abstraction of your hardware. To say one is the other makes no sense. > All semantics and definitions aside. Let's look at what Java really *does* and then compare it to what AIX does and then let's decide if Java is an OS or not. 1) Java runs as a virtual machine on top of some other layer that eventually has access to the hardware; AIX runs as a virtual machine on top of some other layer that eventually has access to the hardware. 2) One can write programs in Java; one can write programs in AIX. 3) Programs can be "compiled" in Java ; programs can be compiled in AIX. 4) Java can only compile and run Java programs ; AIX can compile and run multiple programming language programs. 5) ? ; AIX can run virtual machines inside of AIX. 6) ? ; AIX can run and control many programs simultaneously. ... Item number 4 and beyond shows us that Java is not an "OS". While it is possible to emulate compiling and running a COBOL program in Java you can't really do it. Additionally there are many other tasks that real operating systems do that Java really can't do. Java isn't an OS, it is a VM that runs on top of an OS. While there are many things you could do in Java that would make you feel that Java is an OS, there are just too many things that Java can't do. Compare the Linux kernel (even version 1) with Java and you'll see why Java is a VM and not an OS. VM <> OS VM = VM Java is more than a programming language, but less than an OS. Brian Densmore

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Thunderbird email prob
by Chris Hoelscher 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

Got a weird one that I'm hoping someone can shed some light on.... I'm using Thunderbird email on SBC's Yahoo of a DSL service. Recently started having a problem that whenever I "wake up" from a hibernation, I can no longer connect to the pop server to get email - until I re-boot the machine! Ending Thunderbird and restarting it does nothing. I'm assuming there must be some stat file or cached password or something, but I have not been able to find it.... I am using Thunderbird so that I can have one email repository from both Linux and Winders, and I should probably mention that this behaviour is generally observed in Winders, can't say I've been able to boot into Linux for a couple weeks, so don't really know if it happens there also or not..... Thoughts? Chris.

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