Off Topic - Novell Contractor Needed

[Jonathan]

> Windows 95 current? 

I meant anything that current, or more current than that.

Win95 is still a pretty viable system.

> Novell integrates with any Microsoft OS including Windows 2000 and Me...

Well, it has a client.  The client takes three to ten times as long to log
in and connect than the native Windows clients, and it's responsible for a
lot of lock-ups and crashes, but it's there.  It's probably still upgraded
regularly - we used to get updates about once a month back when I was
working for a firm that supported it.  Usually the updates created more
problems than they solved, but sometimes they would run.

>> Having maintained Novell networks for three years, and 
>> having converted maybe 100 sites from Novell to NT, I stand 
>> firm in saying it has no place on a current production network.  
>> Typically service calls are reduced to 1/3 or fewer when Novell 
>> is eliminated.

> I really suggest you read this page:
> Here's a quote from it that fits perfectly well in this situation:
> -- Quote --
> NT does NOT have a lower support cost than NetWare

As I said above, my field experience directly contradicts this.

> Now, this is not to say that a poorly designed, poorly 
> implemented Netwarenetwork can't be more difficult to maintain than a well

> designed NT network, but this reflects the skills of the installer and
administrator, 
> not the merits of the product itself.  I have seen some terrifyingly
poorly 
> designed NetWare networks, installed by people I wouldn't trust to install

> Windows 95 on a workstation.
> -- End Quote --

The company I worked for was widely recognized as one of the best Novell
integrators in the KC area.  We often were called in to clean up those
botched installs.  We had four CNE's, one of whom had done some of the
original product development with Novel.

> personally I don't think you
> know what the hell you are talking about. Instead of just 
> blabbing off about how Novell sucks, why don't you give us 
> some reasons why you have come to this decision? Can you 
> honestly give use an example situation in which NT would be
> better than Novell and why? 

Well, if three years of support experience, and 100 conversions in which
problems were reduced or eliminated isn't experience and reason, what do you
want?  Something that agrees with your own prejudice, supported by abstract
papers written by Novel supporters?

> I could give you a hundred reasons why NT falls
> short in comparison to NetWare...

In theory.  In field practice, it didn't keep up with NT, and after 4.0 came
out it never caught up.

Why do you think it's stock is in the toilet, and it's market share is
starting to make MacOS look popular?  It's because it's not a workable
product in most environments.

You can cite all sorts of articles and press releases that say how great it
is, but the fact is that corporate America has found the same thing I found
in direct field experience: Novel just doesn't work in a modern environment.