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[Franklin, Joel]

>>"EVER?"  So...you're saying that no one has the right to protect
themselves
>>or their family?  Is that what you're saying?  Because that sure *sounds*
>>like what you're trying to say...

>The Line is the distinction between self-defense and retaliation.

Note also that the line is the distinction of SELF-defense and
PROPERTY-defense.  
This thread began as a discussion of what you could do if someone attacked
your computer. You're allowed to kill to protect yourself, but generally not
your property. This varies from state to state.