Reply from Congressman Emanuel Cleaver concerning OrphanWorksActof 2008

[Jeffrey Watts]

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Jon Pruente <jdpruente at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> My point on their English is that they were recent, meaning they
> obviously hadn't taken an ESL course to gain citizenship, or had been
> here long enough to be under the Regan amnesty.  I know they were
> illegal, it's not a guess on their handle of English, it was a point
> on how fresh they were to this country.  The point i was responding to
> was one of letting the illegals wwork the low paying jobs so they can
> pay taxes, and also that they are working jobs regular Americans won't
> do.  Both of which are false.
>

Yes, I'm sure they work some minimum wage jobs.  I'm just pointing out that
your comments are flimsy and smell of racism.  My mother-in-law's sister is
an American citizen and speaks very little English.  So what?


> Where did I say I only work 1 job?  Why does that matter to the
> argument of an illegal working more than one job that an American
> could do, and as you point out, aren't low paying.  I am a citizen, I
> have a right to work any or any number of jobs I choose.  An illegal
> should not be working, period.
>

You offered as part of your "proof" that they were working two jobs.  I
pointed out that that isn't very unusual.


> So now you argue about low paying jobs done by illegals?
>

I'm arguing that the bulk of the jobs done by illegal aliens are jobs that
are in violation of labor laws.


> Oh, a grammar nazi, too?  I had 3 distinct paragraphs.  One that
> summarized points of "jobs we won't do," a second that recounted the
> stats of the 2006 tax season, and a third that made statements about
> fact vs opinion.  Where have I gone wrong in my use of the English
> language oh sage master of communication? (Sarcasm.  Really, I don't
> care.) Or are you trying to draw me into a troll about my skills of
> English vs those of whom I was describing earlier?  Oh, wait, I've
> been an Editor and published before.  Your bad.
>

It's called "irony".  And yes, while you used paragraphs, you obviously
don't know when to properly use them, as your writing was hard to read and
poorly formed.  Making judgements about folks for poor English skills while
writing poorly is ironic.


> How did the tax cuts (that have brought more revenue to the treasury)
> ruined the economy and done anything to the war?  Oh, we are in a
> recession, is that the current economy scare line?  Is that it,
> because just a week or so ago I heard that we had nearly 2% growth in
> the last quarter.  A recession is defined as 2 consecutive quarters of
> *negative* growth.
>

You obviously live in a different country than I do, sir.  In my country
milk and other basic foods have doubled in price, gasoline is through the
roof, my house lost value, my neighbors have been foreclosed on, the deficit
and debt are at historical highs, and inflation is the highest in almost
thirty years.

I guess in your country everything is peachy, all due to the excellent work
of George Bush and co.

J.


-- 

"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from
oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that
will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine
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