Pantent infingments?

Billy Crook billycrook at gmail.com
Wed May 16 10:30:02 CDT 2007


I knew that TS, fileserving, and SQL worked like that but didn't know
they had extended that madness to exchange.

On 5/16/07, RtX <riverty at gmail.com> wrote:
> Exchange Server comes with a client license for up to 5 clients only. This
> means that only 5 connections are available, any more would be refused. The
> company (or owner) may choose to purchase more client licenses in 5 - 10 -
> 25 license packs from MS for more connections. It's the same way with their
> Terminal Services as well. Think of Terminal Services in the same way as we
> use SSH for system administration. We establish a secure shell in Linux to
> administer the system or run programs on the server, MS uses Terminal
> Services or "Remote Desktop Connection" to do the same on an MS server. One
> must purchase the right amount of licenses to allow enough connections.
>
>
> On 5/16/07, Billy Crook <billycrook at gmail.com> wrote:
> > You have to license exchange clients in addition to paying for the
> > exchange server and the outlook client?  What a piece of shit!
> >
> > On 5/15/07, RtX <riverty at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My boss and I had this conversation today. A lot of what Microsoft is
> saying
> > > with this claim is that they want compensation for accessing their
> > > proprietary services like Exchange and such.
> > >
> > > It's screwy. A Blackberry (a non-MS product) can POP an Exchange server
> for
> > > free but if the Linux community writes a piece of code that will
> interact
> > > with an MS Exchange server, then this is infringement. There are even
> ways
> > > to POP an Exchange server without it counting as a "connection" and
> > > therefore not subject to client fees that MS would otherwise be getting.
> > > There are other examples like including (or offering) the codecs to play
> MS
> > > video or audio streams. MS feels that they should get money (of course)
> for
> > > sucking streams using their fat codecs.
> > >
> > > I, and others, feel that this is a FUD stunt to try and gain back as
> much
> > > server and desktop real estate as they can. Vista is nothing but Windows
> XP
> > > (turd) painted in fruity colors (painted turd) that is killing them in
> > > expected revenue. Sales are not what they wanted and they are really
> pushing
> > > hard to get as much money as they can, for as long as they can. Business
> are
> > > listening. A company will not gamble on Linux, when the possibility of
> > > having an IP war with MS hangs over their heads. All they want to do is
> make
> > > the shit they make or sell the shit they sell. They are not in the IT
> > > industry and don't understand the evils that MS does.
> > >
> > > Either way, it sucks. Microsoft is a very bad company.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/15/07, Arthur Pemberton <pemboa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 5/15/07, Jon Pruente <jdpruente at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > On 5/15/07, Earle Beason <Earle-Beason at kc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Anybody else know of any possible patents that could have been
> > > violated
> > > > > > by the open source project as Microsoft has claimed?
> > > > >
> > > > > MS isn't going to tell.  Doing so will allow developers to code
> around
> > > > > them, or will allow the Software Freedom Law Center to work to prove
> > > > > the patent invalid.  They will just use this FUD to extort money
> from
> > > > > large weenie companies who are scared of legal threats.  By
> revealing
> > > > > exactly what patents are infringed, they open the door to people
> > > > > working very quickly to remove the infringing parts, and thus making
> > > > > the code base immune from further MS claims on those patents.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In all fairness, not all patents can be coded around of.
> > > >
> > > >
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