What's in a node?- RE: talking about where processorormemorygoes and why.

Wed Aug 8 16:44:05 CDT 2007

Ndiyo technology would be perfect for a SOS, as one would only need a
single USB port for general user I/O and the driver software.  Some
monitors (Samsungs and others I believe) already are shipping with the
technology.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/aug/02/guardianweeklytechnologysection.it1
http://ndiyo.org/
http://www.statusq.org/

And it's coming from the work of the guy who invented the web cam, so
it's gotta be good.
http://www.statusq.org/

Jon.

On 8/8/07, Phil Thayer <phil.thayer at vitalsite.com> wrote:
> I think that technology is headed in that direction.
>
> You would have your "system-on-a-stick" (SOS) or for a larger system it
> may be something the size of a PocketPC with a couple of terabytes of
> memory with integrated processors.  The base station would have all the
> KVM w/Audio connections.  The SOS would connect to a docking port that
> would provide the relatively low bandwidth inputs/outputs for the KVMA
> device.  You could easily include wireless connectivity into either the
> SOS or the PocketPC device to have internet connectivity without the
> need for a higher bandwidth connection to the base station.
>
> The Video and Audio would be controlled by the base station so the
> quality of the video or audio would be dependent on the base stations
> configuration.
>
> I think this is entirely feasible in the near future.
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kclug-bounces at kclug.org
> > [mailto:kclug-bounces at kclug.org] On Behalf Of Kelsay, Brian -
> > Kansas City, MO
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:24 AM
> > To: KCLUG
> > Subject: RE: What's in a node?- RE: talking about where
> > processorormemorygoes and why.
> >
> >
> >  So do you think we may end up with a type of base station or thin
> > client that gives you a monitor, KB, mouse and the basics,
> > but you have
> > a processor and memory in a pendrive-like case that you carry
> > around?
> >
> > I can see this leading to some high-bandwidth connector like 1394
> > (firewire) for portable drive and processor and a commodity
> > or standard
> > docking box.  It would allow for easy upgrades and not so much mass of
> > hardware being thrown away.  Your dock/thin client/base station device
> > could be like the Mac Mini or that AMD PIC computer in size
> > with at most
> > a single internal optical drive, USB for KB and mouse, basic 3-D video
> > and then whatever high-speed ports (2-3) for plugging your CPU/memory
> > module and pendrive and heck, even an add-on video module.
> >
> > If something like this comes out, then I can only hope there
> > is a single
> > open design for the ports and dock basics so there is not the trouble
> > like the Firewire standard had with the extra fee per port.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil Thayer
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:10 AM
> >
> > The technology you are thinking about may be on the drawing board
> > already.  Check out the next generation of Intel Chips.
> >
> > http://news.com.com/Processor%2C+memory+may+marry+in+future+co
> > mputers/21
> > 00-1006_3-6120547.html?tag=nefd.top
> >
> > I like the idea of an aggregate memory bandwidth of 1 terabyte/sec.
> > Pretty fast.
> >
> > With this type of chip technology on the horizon, the computer on a
> > memory stick is the next logical step to follow it.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: kclug-bounces at kclug.org
> > > [mailto:kclug-bounces at kclug.org] On Behalf Of Charles Steinkuehler
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 6:15 PM
> > > To: Oren Beck
> > > Cc: KCLUG
> > > Subject: Re: What's in a node?- RE: talking about where
> > > processor or memorygoes and why.
> > >
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> > >
> > > Oren Beck wrote:
> > > > Well- why not have some ubergeeken amongst us whack together
> > > > some prototypes?
> > >
> > > I'll bring the mask layouts, if you bring the fab equipment
> > capable of
> > > running a fairly recent DRAM process.
> > >
> > > Oh...and I'll probably use just about *ANYTHING* other than the 808x
> > > family, which I've always viewed as an abomination (the
> > > better mousetrap
> > > doesn't always win).  The 6502, 6809, and several other lesser well
> > > known parts (harvard architecture DSP like cores,
> > stack-based machines
> > > like the Harris RTX series and Atmel MARC4, or even PIC's for god's
> > > sake) are IMHO all better suited for such a machine.  :)
> > >
> > > If you're not really serious about pushing the state of the
> > > art, you can
> > > roll an array of CPU flavor(s) of your choice and a
> > respectable amount
> > > of memory in modern FPGAs.  You can squeeze in a pretty
> > > decent number of
> > > processors (depending on the core, of course...you get more
> > > 6502's than
> > > 32-bit MIPS cores!), where this really suffers vs. a custom
> > > solution is
> > > the memory.  The biggest FPGA's are currently toping out
> > > around 1 MByte
> > > of internal block memory.
> > >
> > > ...but then who's ever going to need more than 640KB, anyway?!?  :)
> > >
> > > - --
> > > Charles Steinkuehler
> > > charles at steinkuehler.net
> >
> >
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