towards bittorrent proxying (was Re: Bittorrent)

[Oren Beck]

Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 October 2004 10:05 pm, Brian Kelsay wrote:
> 
> 
>>I agree.  BitTorrent works.  
> 
> 
> If you haven't had problems with it, you're not much help troubleshooting it.
> 
> My firewall's built from scratch, so I have a pretty good idea how it works.  
> It does work.
> 
> Bittorrent doesn't.
> 
> Note that this is the problem: for the fortunate, bittorrent works.  For the 
> rest of us, it doesn't, and short of a major effort to troubleshoot it it 
> won't.  Most of us aren't going to put that effort in, especially if there's 
> something available via ftp that will do the job we're actually trying to do.
> 
> 
> All the "helpful" suggestions from people who've never had a problem with 
> bittorrent notwithstanding, _ftp_ works.

The consensus so far agrees on 2 points - ftp works and bittorrent needs 
work .
The logical next step to me is those who can- will do what's required to 
make
bittorrent the usability peer to ftp , OR those committed to a slower 
evolution of
bittorrent will be always a bit behind the curve as will be projects 
solely shared so .
Which is depressing . There are a significant percentage of us 
handicapped by
geography denying us bandwith . Forgetting the alleged leech /all 
take-no give
ethics said to have your d/l proportional to your u/l at heart we can do 
better .
Though the above is claimed to justify darker aspects by some paranoids  we
  here hopefully are not that petty - this does not seem un fixable .

To my admittedly incomplete experience with torrents even if one does 
negotiate
getting a stable client that plays nice with everything else in their 
install there's a
bit more to it . Like renegotiation time after a cloud goes over my 
Starband dish .
Or the unexplained mirage like nature of  connections that should be 
rock solid .
Let me be clear- * IF * we can get this to work it will be like going 
from zmodem
up to 100mb Ethernet in terms of bandwith management but we don't have a 
grip
on how to implement this .

Anyone have some constructive and CONCRETE how-to ?

Oren