Linux in Schools
GodfatherofSoul
mbellamy at kc.rr.com
Wed Feb 27 19:05:26 CST 2002
This is what I expected. The exact situation of the high school I
worked at.
1.) Administrators like to throw money at problems. "Buy the
products with the best advertising, to hell with support personnel."
2. ) Linux could still find a home in the server arena.
3.) "...because we buy the most expensive, best advertised products
and we need personnel to support them". Maybe I had a bad experience,
but our Novell/M$ admins were absolutely worthless.
This is why I think schools without big budgets are a better, more
accepting audience. You stand a much better chance of convincing a
school without the resources that you can build them a network rather
than some JoCo SuperInt. that he needs to get rid of GroupWise. In any
case, building a freeware network from donations and such for either a
school in need or as a demonstration allows you to do work without
making major changes to existing infrastructure. Assuming someone
actually makes the decision to convert, installing Linux on 200 desktops
will take some time :)
Also, a huge advantage for building not converting is not having to
fight a battle for every WAN. Setting up some networks where you know
the answer will be "yes" gives you experience, credibility, and probably
some contacts.
MBSmith at dstsystems.com wrote:
>My brother-in-law is the CFO of North Kansas City School District, and
>after giving him a quick run down in the Linux state of affairs, he
>responded with the following:
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>quote
>I talked with our IT Director about your questions and received the
>following response:
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>Primary reasons:
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>1) Most of the software products we purchase for education are developed
>for Microsoft and Novell. (NCS, Alice, Versatrans, Boss Horizon, CCC,
>Paws, etc)
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>2) Our students need to be exposed to microsoft as it is the primary
>operating system utilized in businesses.
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>3) Most employees we hire from the outside have Microsoft and Novell
>experiences already.
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>You maybe able to give us some new ideas on the uses of Linux. Anytime
>you have any info just let me know. See you
>soon.............Thanks...............Paul Harrell
>end quote
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>I think I'll work on him from a $$ aspect, and give him some solid case
>info where it's helped organisations. I have to start somewhere....
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>For the record, here's what I asked him;
>quote
>[intro snipped]
>Through KCLUG email 'chatting', the question of Linux in schools has been
>raised, and I was wondering if you are aware if this alternative has ever
>been discussed for use in the school system? While it may be impractical
>to remove all exposure to Windows from students right now, seeing as it's
>the current primary business environment, this will certainly be less of
>an issue in future, and exposing them to Linux now will give them a head
>start. Also, migrating to a Linux administration infrustructure will
>certainly influence the operating bottom line - as quite a few government
>agencies throughout the world are discovering, throwing off the Microsoft
>licensing burden (shackles) and defining your own upgrade path and
>schedules can be very liberating. This may be something your IT people
>have already discussed with you, but I warn you - if they're Microsoft
>lackeys, they'll be scared of Linux for no other reason than they don't
>know what it's like to let go of MS's apron strings.
>
>End of spiel, here's a few links for reference:
>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/23413.html
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/23667.html
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/23470.html
>end quote
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>"Aaron" <aaron at aarons.net>
>Sent by: owner-kclug at marauder.illiana.net
>02/26/2002 11:20 PM
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> To: "Kclug" <kclug at kclug.org>
> cc:
> Subject: Re: Linux in Schools
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>Call the North Kansas City School District and ask for Jerry Delgato. Tell
>him I told you to call and he'll be more then happy to talk to you about
>anything and everything.
>
>Aaron Wendel
>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Gene Dascher [mailto:gedascher at multiservice.com]
>>>Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:03 AM
>>>To: Kclug
>>>Subject: Linux in Schools
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>>>Are any of you involved in Linux advocacy with any of the KC
>>>area school
>>>districts? I'd be interested to get some information about
>>>how to introduce
>>>the subject to a school district and help implement a
>>>solution, if possible.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Gene
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