Which (RH or MDK) for bare http server? Neither

Fri Jun 15 18:28:38 CDT 2001

To each his own, I guess. I've used Slackware, and I agree that it is a very
clean install. Prior to installing E-Smith, my server ran Slack.

However, I am so busy nowadays that I put a premium on time. I just don't
have the time anymore to sit around for hours installing software and
configuring it. E-Smith does it for me, and does it right the first time.

I'm not slamming Slackware; I think it is a great distribution.

Matt
mcopple at kcosc.com

>-----Original Message-----
>From: J Greene [mailto:j_a_greene at yahoo.com]
>Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:28 PM
>To: Matthew G. Copple; kclug at kclug.org
>Subject: RE: Which (RH or MDK) for bare http server? Neither
>
>
>Neither.... Go with Slackware.  I use is and it is easy, clean and VERY
>good.
>
>It is probably if not the oldest, one of the oldest and most unmanipulated
>distro. of Linux.  It follows the standards so much more that any of the
>other distros.
>
>I say give me a clean version of Linux and keep your fingers out of it.
>If I want frills I'll add them.
>
>No matter what the distro adds on its own you'll want to remove it,lock
>down the OS, reinstall your apps, configure them yourself and unlock the
>things you need.  That way you know what you are running and no one else
>does.
>
>
>I know I'm going to make someone upset but I"ll say it anyway.
>
>Redhat is the Microsoft of the Linux world.  I'd stay as far away from
>them and anyone that makes a RH based distro as possible!
>
>Yes they make a good OS but so does MS.  They just mess up a good thing by
>trying too hard to be the leader.
>
>
>Just my 2cents worth
>Jason
>
>
>--- "Matthew G. Copple" <direwolf at kc.rr.com> wrote:
>> I have had really good luck with a distribution called e-smith that is
>> based
>> on Red Hat 7.0. Very little configuration is required...essentially, you
>> pop
>> the CD in the drive and it takes over from there. It installs QMAIL, an
>> http
>> server, MySQL database server, an LDAP directory application and an IMAP
>> web-based mail client, as well as POP3 and IMAP servers. It can be used
>> as
>> an internet gateway, as well, with very little configuration.
>>
>> It uses a custom web-based management interface that is available only
>> to
>> your internal network. However, you can set it up to allow telnet or SSH
>> access as well (although both are disabled by default).
>>
>> There are some things to be aware of, though. It does not install with a
>> compiler (for security reasons), so any software you install must be
>> done so
>> with RPMs. In addition, if you make permanent configuration changes
>> outside
>> of the web-based interface, you have to do some mucking around with Perl
>> scripts (it uses Perl scripts and cron jobs to set configuration options
>> for
>> the various services).
>>
>> The company, E-Smith, offers the product as an open source alternative
>> to M$
>> Small Business Server. It is GPL'd, and an ISO is available for download
>> from e-smith.org; however, they make their money off of annual support
>> subscriptions.
>>
>> I am a HUGE fan of e-smith. I don't have a problem with mucking around
>> in
>> Linux, but I am a minimalist. I despise the tendency of RH, Mandrake and
>> Suse to attempt to put tons of unneeded software on my machine (along
>> with
>> the attendant security risks). I am not a patient person, and I do not
>> enjoy
>> spending an hour going through a list of packages and deselecting them
>> in a
>> custom installation. Therefore, E-Smith is a good choice for me, because
>> it
>> puts just what I need for my home office and nothing more. It is highly
>> configurable, relatively secure and easy to manage.
>>
>> It also works very well as a headless server. If anyone is looking for a
>> strong home office or small office (less than 50 users) package, this is
>> it!
>>
>> Matthew Copple
>> mcopple at kcosc.com
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Taylor, Kirk [mailto:Kirk.Taylor at qwest.com]
>> >Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:34 AM
>> >To: 'mohoel at bigfoot.com'; kclug at kclug.org
>> >Subject: RE: Which (RH or MDK) for bare http server?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >This sounds very similar to something I'm going to be settin up here
>> very
>> >shortly... except the box I'll be using will need to be a little
>> >more robust
>> >(ie, email server, ftp server, etc).
>> >
>> >Essentially, I want to build a box that I can drop in a location
>> >that serves
>> >pages, email, ftp, etc. without the need of a monitor/mouse after the
>> >initial setup. (Think of an all-in-one type appliance that provides all
>> the
>> >essentials for a small business or group of users.)
>> >
>> >Perhaps we can spec out a common install/equipment list, as I know
>> quite a
>> >few other people that could use something like this.
>> >
>> >Thoughts?
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: The Hoelschers [mailto:mohoel at telocity.com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:38 AM
>> >> To: kclug at kclug.org
>> >> Subject: Which (RH or MDK) for bare http server?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Looking for any info regarding the merits of using one over
>> >> the other -
>> >> Red Hat 7.1 or Mandrake 7.2 - for a system that will be used as a
>> bare
>> >> HTTP: server.
>> >>
>> >> I have an old P75 that I plan to use, but don't intend to use
>> >> X on it at
>> >> all (since the mouse port is trash and the ISA slots are only good
>> for
>> >> destroying ISA cards).  I intend to install (text mode) and
>> >> then remove
>> >> keyboard & monitor, and do all config through Webmin or Telnet.
>> >>
>> >> Will run:
>> >> Apache
>> >> NFS
>> >> Telnet server
>> >> (maybe) FTP server
>> >> (maybe) Interchange (RH's "shopping cart/catalog" pkg, I know it
>> works
>> >> on MDK, assume it works on RH ;) )
>> >>
>> >> I don't intend to run any email server, nor SAMBA, CUPS, etc.
>> >> All my web
>> >> page development will be done elsewhere, and just dropped here for
>> >> serving.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your opinions, and let the flames begin!
>> >>
>> >> Chris.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
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