Which (RH or MDK) for bare http server? Neither

J Greene j_a_greene at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 15 17:28:08 CDT 2001


Neither.... Go with Slackware.  I use is and it is easy, clean and VERY
good.

It is probably if not the oldest, one of the oldest and most unmanipulated
distro. of Linux.  It follows the standards so much more that any of the
other distros.

I say give me a clean version of Linux and keep your fingers out of it. 
If I want frills I'll add them.

No matter what the distro adds on its own you'll want to remove it,lock
down the OS, reinstall your apps, configure them yourself and unlock the
things you need.  That way you know what you are running and no one else
does.

I know I'm going to make someone upset but I"ll say it anyway. 

Redhat is the Microsoft of the Linux world.  I'd stay as far away from
them and anyone that makes a RH based distro as possible!

Yes they make a good OS but so does MS.  They just mess up a good thing by
trying too hard to be the leader.

Just my 2cents worth
Jason

--- "Matthew G. Copple" <direwolf at kc.rr.com> wrote:
> I have had really good luck with a distribution called e-smith that is
> based
> on Red Hat 7.0. Very little configuration is required...essentially, you
> pop
> the CD in the drive and it takes over from there. It installs QMAIL, an
> http
> server, MySQL database server, an LDAP directory application and an IMAP
> web-based mail client, as well as POP3 and IMAP servers. It can be used
> as
> an internet gateway, as well, with very little configuration.
> 
> It uses a custom web-based management interface that is available only
> to
> your internal network. However, you can set it up to allow telnet or SSH
> access as well (although both are disabled by default).
> 
> There are some things to be aware of, though. It does not install with a
> compiler (for security reasons), so any software you install must be
> done so
> with RPMs. In addition, if you make permanent configuration changes
> outside
> of the web-based interface, you have to do some mucking around with Perl
> scripts (it uses Perl scripts and cron jobs to set configuration options
> for
> the various services).
> 
> The company, E-Smith, offers the product as an open source alternative
> to M$
> Small Business Server. It is GPL'd, and an ISO is available for download
> from e-smith.org; however, they make their money off of annual support
> subscriptions.
> 
> I am a HUGE fan of e-smith. I don't have a problem with mucking around
> in
> Linux, but I am a minimalist. I despise the tendency of RH, Mandrake and
> Suse to attempt to put tons of unneeded software on my machine (along
> with
> the attendant security risks). I am not a patient person, and I do not
> enjoy
> spending an hour going through a list of packages and deselecting them
> in a
> custom installation. Therefore, E-Smith is a good choice for me, because
> it
> puts just what I need for my home office and nothing more. It is highly
> configurable, relatively secure and easy to manage.
> 
> It also works very well as a headless server. If anyone is looking for a
> strong home office or small office (less than 50 users) package, this is
> it!
> 
> Matthew Copple
> mcopple at kcosc.com
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Taylor, Kirk [mailto:Kirk.Taylor at qwest.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:34 AM
> >To: 'mohoel at bigfoot.com'; kclug at kclug.org
> >Subject: RE: Which (RH or MDK) for bare http server?
> >
> >
> >
> >This sounds very similar to something I'm going to be settin up here
> very
> >shortly... except the box I'll be using will need to be a little
> >more robust
> >(ie, email server, ftp server, etc).
> >
> >Essentially, I want to build a box that I can drop in a location
> >that serves
> >pages, email, ftp, etc. without the need of a monitor/mouse after the
> >initial setup. (Think of an all-in-one type appliance that provides all
> the
> >essentials for a small business or group of users.)
> >
> >Perhaps we can spec out a common install/equipment list, as I know
> quite a
> >few other people that could use something like this.
> >
> >Thoughts?
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: The Hoelschers [mailto:mohoel at telocity.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:38 AM
> >> To: kclug at kclug.org
> >> Subject: Which (RH or MDK) for bare http server?
> >>
> >>
> >> Looking for any info regarding the merits of using one over
> >> the other -
> >> Red Hat 7.1 or Mandrake 7.2 - for a system that will be used as a
> bare
> >> HTTP: server.
> >>
> >> I have an old P75 that I plan to use, but don't intend to use
> >> X on it at
> >> all (since the mouse port is trash and the ISA slots are only good
> for
> >> destroying ISA cards).  I intend to install (text mode) and
> >> then remove
> >> keyboard & monitor, and do all config through Webmin or Telnet.
> >>
> >> Will run:
> >> Apache
> >> NFS
> >> Telnet server
> >> (maybe) FTP server
> >> (maybe) Interchange (RH's "shopping cart/catalog" pkg, I know it
> works
> >> on MDK, assume it works on RH ;) )
> >>
> >> I don't intend to run any email server, nor SAMBA, CUPS, etc.
> >> All my web
> >> page development will be done elsewhere, and just dropped here for
> >> serving.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your opinions, and let the flames begin!
> >>
> >> Chris.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 

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