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[Patrick Thurmond]

Yo Monty, its lovely to live in a world where the victimizers get punished by the law, but we all 
know its a dream world. And as lovely as those righteous morals are, I know for a fact we can't 
rely on our government to truely "Enforce" the law. Face it, if its gotta be done right, you gotta 
do it yourself. That whole distinction line BS is why so many crimes happen. B/C they know we won't 
(our feel we can't) do anything to stop them and protect ourselves. Its a vicous circle, but 
personally I would love to see some vigilante go scare the shit out of the local criminal 
population. And I would support that person. If the government wasn't so whipped by the 
anti-cruelty panzys out there then we would have only about 10% of the crime that we have now. 
Personally I say the heck with the cops, we will have to stop the criminals ourselves. The 
government isn't doing its job. It isn't serving the people anymore. The government is the 
MICROSOFT OF POLITICS.
-Patrick
Monty Harder <lists at kc.rr.com> wrote: 8/24/01 7:03:39 AM, "Cox, Michael" wrote:

>"EVER?" So...you're saying that no one has the right to protect themselves
>or their family? Is that what you're saying? Because that sure *sounds*
>like what you're trying to say...

The Line is the distinction between self-defense and retaliation. If I am attacked, and I 
neutralize the immediate threat,
I am not justified in using force to punish the aggressor. As a civilized human, I have delegated 
my natural right to use
force in retaliation to a neutral arbiter. This is the moral justification for the existence of 
government - read the
Declaration of Independence for details. Crossing that line is vigilantism, or Hatfield/McCoy, 
Crip/Blood,
Protestant/Catholic, Jew/Moslem, Serb/Croatian perpetual civil war.


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