[OT] partialy I was wondering what suggestions for programing

[Bryan Richard]

Don't Let The Name Fool You!
http://webster.cs.ucr.edu/AsmTools/HLA/index.html

It's not uncommon to find HLA out in the field. I know SLAC was recently
moving some subroutines from C to HLA to pick up performance gains in
some of their cluster monitoring applications.

However, I think I read once that Id Software uses MASM. ;-)

- Bryan

On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 06:53:58AM -0600, Charles, Joshua Micah (UMKC-Student) wrote:
> I was over looking at the Art of Assembly material, and I'm a bit
> confused.  The stuff this guy is teaching isn't stand alone assembly; it
> one step higher.  Is this really going to be helpful, or would I be
> better off just looking at C?
> 
> Josh
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Bryan Richard
> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 9:00 PM
> To: Kendrick-LUG
> Cc: kulua-l at kulua.org; Kansas linux ers
> Subject: Re: [OT] partialy I was wondering what suggestions for
> programing
> 
> On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 04:33:18AM -0800, Kendrick-LUG wrote:
> > I am wanting to get in to programing eventualy posibly drivers etc.  I
> 
> > was wondering if there were any suggestions about where/how to learn
> the 
> > basics ie what a aray is for things of that nature the fundamentals of
> 
> > programing.  
> 
> There's a couple of schools of thought about learning to program. One is
> that you start low-level and, if you don't get frustrated and quit, once
> you get it everything else will seem easy. The high school my wife
> taught at in California taught C++ (name of the book was C++ FOR YOU++
> ;-)). The other is that people should learn a high-level, interpreted
> language and gradually drill down from there.
> 
> I'm kind of one the fence as there have been times a CS degree would
> have served me well but I believe I side with the "introduction to
> programming via high-level languages."
> 
> > then posibly a good starting language.  
> 
> A solid understanding of /usr/bin/bash is like knowing how to how spell
> well; it will serve you well down the road. A quick way to learn bash is
> to make it your file manager.
> 
> I would look at languages that you can do a number of things with
> (executable, interactive prompt, web, &c.), well documented tutorials,
> and strong community. Python, Ruby, and Perl are all solid starting
> points. 
> 
> If you choose to go the low-level route, then you can learn more than
> you will ever use from the Art of Assembly book
> (http://webster.cs.ucr.edu/).
> 
> > eventual intrests 
> > include perl php c's.   any suggestions are greatly welcome
> 
> I don't think I would start with PHP. PHP is interesting and if you
> collect languages it's fun to see what happens when a language is built
> to solve a single problem (pre-PHP5 and the web) but I don't really
> consider it all that practical for work off the web.
> 
> - Bryan
> 
>