Never ceases to amaze

pthurmond at kc.rr.com pthurmond at kc.rr.com
Thu Apr 10 21:02:54 CDT 2003


Well gee, maybe there was something ELSE you were missing!
There are other variables than just saying a fully functional install
of Windows (good load, not jacked up) is going just run into a problem
b/c its Windows. It just doesn't happen. As for my experience, its not
a matter as to NEVER running into IDE problems with it, its a matter of
whether I have run into it on a good load of windows with all the right
motherboard drivers installed. With a good load of windows that has the
correct drivers installed and no other software that would mess with
the device installed I have yet to run into problems. Now if you start
throwing in variables like burning software that doesn't work right or
corrupt mobo drivers OF COURSE YOU WILL RUN INTO PROBLEMS, as with ANY
OS.

As for Roxio, yes its the most popular, no its probably not the least
problematic, but it does have alot of nifty features. During the
rollout of Roxio 5 I was trained here at my company by some Roxio
representatives about problems with it and its features. Yes it had
some messed up problems from the start, but they are easy to get
around. As long as you don't have very first release, and don't install
its hard drive backup utility, you should be fine for the most part,
unless you already have a horked up system. I haven't had trouble with
my Roxio load on my XP machine after I got through the install
problems.

Yes I know linux comes with free CD burning software, but guess what so
does Windows XP, its integrated with the OS. Granted it lacks most of
the major features of CDRW software, but it does make good data and
audio CDs without any trouble. I just prefer the extra features of
Roxio, plus its a bit quicker. Also don't finger Roxio as the only
burning software solution for Windows. There is also Nero, there is NTI
CD-Maker, and alot of others. Linux also has a variety, and I have a
hard time believing that every single CDRW program in Linux works
flawlessly all the time, from install, and throughout its usage. Now
you have probably run into few problems, but I have run into few with
Roxio on my most recent install of it, which was almost a year ago,
still running with no problems, it even took a brand new DVD-RAM drive
with no problems. And no I didn't pay for Roxio, I got a free copy with
my training. Oh and it doesn't surprise me that Roxio 6 is having alot
of trouble, especially since its got to twist its way through the
device control rights in WinXP and 2k, but Linux doesn't have those
restrictions that have plagued Roxio so many times when working with
Windows XP. Take all that into consideration bub!

On 04-10-2003 06:59 am, Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins at tarcanfel.org>
wrote:

> Quoting pthurmond at kc.rr.com:
> 
> >        As for installing CDRW drives on Windows 98 or later, I
don't
> > know what you were smoking when you put it together I have never
had a
> > problem with swapping any IDE drives around on Windows, that
includes
> > CDRW and DVD. 
> 
> Well gee, you could stand to learn something from somebody who has
had 
> problems.  The fact you haven't seen them indicates more about your
experience 
> than about whether the problems are real dude.
> 
> >If Roxio is your problem thats a completely different
> > ballpark. We are talking about Windows vs. Linux, not Roxio versus
> > linux.
> 
> Not really.  Since burning CD's is not the province of the OS, but of

> applications which must access the hardware through the OS, and since
the 
> software withing Linux works while the leading software in Windows
doesn't, I 
> assert that it's relevant.
> 
> There are plenty of patches for Roxio 6, which is still trashing hard
drives.  
> Patches don't help much if the initial install makes your system
unbootable.
> 
> My own problems are with Roxio 5, to which I have applied all
available 
> patches, which appear to have made the software worse in general.
> 
> In this instance, bitching about Roxio is a matter of asserting that
something 
> that "just works (tm)" in Linux is something you pay $80 extra for in
Windows -
>  and it still doesn't work.  Roxio is a prime example of why closed
source 
> sucks.
> 
> --  
>  Jonathan
>  Live from Andover, England
> 
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