Interesting challenge (for me at least)

Haworth, Michael A. Michael_Haworth at pas-technologies.com
Thu Feb 25 13:41:09 CST 2010


I can agree on the potential headache, but the guidelines that we are having to follow as well as the statement of 'no-action' are somewhat conflicting, stating that generalities are acceptable but specifics are required and many other brain twisters. Slight of hiring another person (or contractor), I am basically left with my own facilities to deal with it. I plan to create the server and enable SNMP for monitoring and then hand over management of the account structure to the Export Compliant Officer. If I do it correctly, the only things that I will need to maintain are the OS patches and the hardware, she will be free to handle the credentials as she chooses. On paper it sounds like a stroke of genius, but good ideas are sometimes the beginning of folly...

Michael Haworth<mailto:michael_haworth at pas-technologies.com>
ESSM - PAS Technologies Inc.
D: (816) 556-5157
M: (816) 585-1033

From: Nathan Cerny [mailto:ncerny at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:20 PM
To: Monty J. Harder
Cc: Haworth, Michael A.; KCLUG (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Interesting challenge (for me at least)

Any time you have a "shared" set of credentials, it's a bad idea.
I think you're going to end up managing two separate credential stores to make something like this work...

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Monty J. Harder <mjharder at gmail.com<mailto:mjharder at gmail.com>> wrote:
That domain admin could reset the password for an account with access to the share and gain entry anyway.  A domain admin with a security problem is probably a compliance issue anyway.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Haworth, Michael A. <Michael_Haworth at pas-technologies.com<mailto:Michael_Haworth at pas-technologies.com>> wrote:
This is most likely pretty elementary, but I wanted to bounce it off of some people that know more than me and can point out any flaws in my very weary logic before I do a concept presentation to my bosses:

I have a folder that has to be available on the network (currently Windows with AD), but must be protected from unauthorized access (including access by Domain Admins). Here is what I think a valid solution could be:


1.       Build up a CentOS box.

2.       Install and configure SAMBA to allow for sharing to windows computers.

3.       Create a SAMBA share for the required folder (and sort out auto-mount in case of a reboot).

4.       create two accounts - one to allow for Read/Write access to the shared folder and one to allow for Read-only access

5.       Issue the account credentials to the manager of the folder (in this case, out Export Compliance Officer) and then allow it to be that persons problem to manage who knows the credentials.

I see this as a low stress, low cost, quick, and above all - easy - way to deal with a potential compliance issue. The reason that we can not simply use Active Directory to restrict access is that one of our Domain Admins is a foreign national - if we were to place a 'deny access' on the folder, he could remove it if he wished - and getting rid of AD or Windows is not an option ATM, but it is still in process.

Any help from the list is greatly appreciated,
Michael Haworth<mailto:michael_haworth at pas-technologies.com>
Enterprise Systems Support Manager
PAS Technologies Inc.
D: (816) 556-5157
M: (816) 585-1033
F: (816) 556-5189


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