Linux and Daemons

feba thatl febaen at gmail.com
Wed Mar 12 16:59:26 CDT 2008


On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Leo Mauler <webgiant at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Charles Steinkuehler <charles at steinkuehler.net>
>  wrote:
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>  > James Sissel wrote:
>  >
>  > > | (for example, only [[members of a certain
>  > > | religion]] can cast our demons)
>  >
>  > > Really?  Only [[members of a certain religion]]
>  > > can do that?  Or maybe a better question
>  > > should be "Can [[members of a certain religion]]
>  > > really do that?"  What proof do you have that
>  > > *anybody* can or can't do that?  Or for that
>  > > matter, what proof do you have demons even
>  > > exist?
>  >
>  > Of course daemons exist...how else would you run
>  > apache, nfs, ntp, &c.
>  >
>  > However, I thought all you had to do to banish a
>  > daemon was a simple 'kill -9', or if you're
>  > feeling more friendly, perhaps an
>  >
>  > ~  /etc/init.d/<daemon> stop
>  >
>  > Now you're telling me I have to involve
>  > [[a certain religion]]?!?  Is there some way I
>  > can do that from a shell script, or do I have
>  > to make direct calls to the kernel?
>  >
>  > I looked, but I can't seem to find a man page
>  > for anything that looks like an 'exorcise'
>  > utility or syscall.  :-(
>
>  Linux looks at daemons differently from [a certain
>  religion].  Linux daemons are considered useful most
>  of the time.  When they start destroying your
>  partition records (so that you know that the daemon
>  has hidden that picture of your mother in there
>  somewhere) and start spewing "stuff" all over your
>  hard drive, then you reach for the kill command.
>  However, you then do your best to bring back the
>  daemon, to "re-possess" your computer at the earliest
>  available opportunity.
>
>  "Exorcisms" try to drive out daemons completely, such
>  that they do not return.  An "exorcise" command in
>  Linux would be a shell script which killed the daemon
>  and then deleted the daemon's executable, which is
>  completely antithetical to the proper operation of
>  Linux.
>
>  Not to mention a sure way to go straight to
>  "dependency hell".  ]:-)
>
>
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So what you're saying is, we should be calling them Spierits?


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