Stop editing the damn subject (was Re: The End OfWesternCivilization (was Re: RoadRunner nonsense (was Re: fwd: RE: STFU RE))
Phil Thayer
phil.thayer at vitalsite.com
Tue Mar 4 09:03:19 CST 2008
No messages here. See bottom.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoffrion, Ron P [IT] [mailto:Ron.Geoffrion at sprint.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:01 PM
> To: Phil Thayer; kclug at kclug.org
> Subject: RE: Stop editing the damn subject (was Re: The End
> OfWesternCivilization (was Re: RoadRunner nonsense (was Re:
> fwd: RE: STFU RE))
>
> Not really.
>
> RFC1855 - Status - Informational.
>
> http://www.rfc.net/rfc1855.html
>
>
> - Mail should have a subject heading which reflects
> the content of the message.
>
> - Subject lines should follow the conventions of the group.
>
> <top posted with full content by a business user - another
> irritant on this list - LOL!>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Geoffrion
> 913.488.7664
>
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kclug-bounces at kclug.org
> [mailto:kclug-bounces at kclug.org] On Behalf Of Phil Thayer
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:34 PM
> To: kclug at kclug.org
> Subject: RE: Stop editing the damn subject (was Re: The End
> Of WesternCivilization (was Re: RoadRunner nonsense (was Re:
> fwd: RE: STFU RE))
>
> Is that going against some kind of standard or RFC to change
> the subject line of a threaded messages thus sending the
> email off to some other thread that may not be related to
> what the thread was originally meant to be?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kclug-bounces at kclug.org
> > [mailto:kclug-bounces at kclug.org] On Behalf Of Billy Crook
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:58 PM
> > To: Leo Mauler
> > Cc: kclug at kclug.org
> > Subject: Stop editing the damn subject (was Re: The End Of
> > WesternCivilization (was Re: RoadRunner nonsense (was Re:
> > fwd: RE: STFU RE))
> >
> > See, now isn't that annoying? Cut it out, for the love of
> god. There
> > is a reason emails have subject lines. It's so I can mute them in
> > gmail, and not be bothered with that thread again. When
> people change
> > the subject line it pollutes everyone's inbox, and breaks threaded
> > reading and sorting. Stop It. Stop it now. Internet
> pollution kills
> > baby seals.
> >
> > If you're going to change the subject line, change the damn subject,
> > and write a completely different unrelated email.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Leo Mauler
> <webgiant at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > --- Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins at tarcanfel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday 26 February 2008 13:06:06 Billy Crook > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If one were to look at how their opt-out page > > works, you
> > > http get with a few args, one of > > which is your modem's mac
> > > address. You could > > just as easily post with any
> other cable >
> > > > modem's mac address, if say, you had multiple, > > and didn't
> > > want to visit each physical location > > of them, or maybe ....
> > > >
> > > > ... you could just type the correct url in the > first place.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it's annoying. No, it's not the end of Western >
> > > Civilization.
> > > >
> > > > Get a grip, guys.
> > >
> > > It may not be the end of Western Civilization, but its certainly
> > > being handled very insecurely by RoadRunner.
> > >
> > > This guy (blogger link below) has done some poking around and
> > > discovered how RoadRunner is going about the "opt-in/opt-out"
> > > process for its new services (thats right, plural, see
> below), and
> > > it is a little scary from a security perspective.
> > >
> > > http://rgov.org/road-runners-dns-wildcard
> > >
> > > Basically RoadRunner is using an open HTTP GET request, and no
> > > SSL, for your "Preferences" page. It is possible for anyone to
> > > request the "Preferences"
> > > page for every single customer, and with this
> information you gain
> > > the geographical location of every single RoadRunner
> customer (and
> > > thus where to direct your own ISP's advertising to best effect,
> > > especially if you don't redirect "failed DNS requests"
> > > to an advertising page).
> > >
> > > But RoadRunner has not one but *three* new services you can opt
> > > into or out of. Services which, when their options are set very
> > > unfavorably to the customer, result in an interesting and
> > > profitable situation for Internet Advertisers, and in
> particular a
> > > certain class of advertiser.
> > >
> > > # Web Address Error Redirect Service:
> > > (the service everyone is complaining about, which sends you to a
> > > page containing ads from advertisers who are advertising with
> > > RoadRunner)
> > >
> > > # Typo Correction Service:
> > > (fixes common typos in URLs, such as cmo or nte)
> > >
> > > But the third one should be of some concern for those with small
> > > children:
> > >
> > > # Safe Search Filter:
> > > "This preference allows you to restrict adult-oriented content
> > > from search results on the non-existing domain landing service."
> > >
> > > Since there are only approximately 16,777,216 MAC addresses the
> > > way RoadRunner is handling the service, you could write a script
> > > which, for example, opted every RoadRunner customer *into* "Web
> > > Address Error Redirect Service", *out of* "Typo
> Correction Service"
> > > (which increases the possibility that the RoadRunner "Failed DNS
> > > Request" page will pop up), and *out of* "Safe Search
> Filter". And
> > > it wouldn't take long to run the script, or be much
> trouble to run
> > > it once a week.
> > >
> > > And then you, as the owner of "Adult Content Website Advertising
> > > Consortium", then use the advertising revenue you
> collect from your
> > > adult website members to buy HUGE amounts of adult content web
> > > advertising.
> > > Every time a RoadRunner customer mistypes a URL, or types in a
> > > non-existent URL, the RoadRunner page will pop up and send adult
> > > content advertising related to the customer's failed URL request
> > > (Rule #34 of the
> > > Internet: "If it exists, there is porn of it.").
> > >
> > > You don't even need to be an adult content advertising
> consortium.
> > > Just pay for "first placement" on the RoadRunner Ad Page...err, I
> > > mean "Failed DNS Request Page", and then run the script opting
> > > every RoadRunner customer *into* "Web Address Error Redirect
> > > Service"
> > > and *out of* "Typo Correction Service". The RoadRunner customer
> > > will see the RoadRunner "Failed DNS Request Page" more often than
> > > they would like to see it, and your ads will be seen more often
> > > than any other ad.
> > >
> > > Spam has proven that many Internet Advertisers have no shame,
> > > decency, and/or ethics. This move by RoadRunner will be
> exploited,
> > > and exploited soon, and with any luck the complaints
> from customers
> > > (and the lawsuits from parents) will bring it to an end fairly
> > > quickly.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Sorrry for top posting like that. :)
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