Stop editing the damn subject (was Re: The End Of WesternCivilization (was Re: RoadRunner nonsense (was Re: fwd: RE: STFU RE))
Geoffrion, Ron P [IT]
Ron.Geoffrion at sprint.com
Mon Mar 3 16:00:44 CST 2008
Not really.
RFC1855 - Status - Informational.
http://www.rfc.net/rfc1855.html
- Mail should have a subject heading which reflects
the content of the message.
- Subject lines should follow the conventions of the group.
<top posted with full content by a business user - another irritant on this list - LOL!>
Thanks,
Ron Geoffrion
913.488.7664
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
-----Original Message-----
From: kclug-bounces at kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces at kclug.org] On Behalf Of Phil Thayer
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:34 PM
To: kclug at kclug.org
Subject: RE: Stop editing the damn subject (was Re: The End Of WesternCivilization (was Re: RoadRunner nonsense (was Re: fwd: RE: STFU RE))
Is that going against some kind of standard or RFC to change the subject line of a threaded messages thus sending the email off to some other thread that may not be related to what the thread was originally meant to be?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kclug-bounces at kclug.org
> [mailto:kclug-bounces at kclug.org] On Behalf Of Billy Crook
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:58 PM
> To: Leo Mauler
> Cc: kclug at kclug.org
> Subject: Stop editing the damn subject (was Re: The End Of
> WesternCivilization (was Re: RoadRunner nonsense (was Re:
> fwd: RE: STFU RE))
>
> See, now isn't that annoying? Cut it out, for the love of god. There
> is a reason emails have subject lines. It's so I can mute them in
> gmail, and not be bothered with that thread again. When people change
> the subject line it pollutes everyone's inbox, and breaks threaded
> reading and sorting. Stop It. Stop it now. Internet pollution kills
> baby seals.
>
> If you're going to change the subject line, change the damn subject,
> and write a completely different unrelated email.
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Leo Mauler <webgiant at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > --- Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins at tarcanfel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday 26 February 2008 13:06:06 Billy Crook > wrote:
> > >
> > > > If one were to look at how their opt-out page > > works, you
> > http get with a few args, one of > > which is your modem's mac
> > address. You could > > just as easily post with any other cable >
> > > modem's mac address, if say, you had multiple, > > and didn't
> > want to visit each physical location > > of them, or maybe ....
> > >
> > > ... you could just type the correct url in the > first place.
> > >
> > > Yes, it's annoying. No, it's not the end of Western >
> > Civilization.
> > >
> > > Get a grip, guys.
> >
> > It may not be the end of Western Civilization, but its certainly
> > being handled very insecurely by RoadRunner.
> >
> > This guy (blogger link below) has done some poking around and
> > discovered how RoadRunner is going about the "opt-in/opt-out"
> > process for its new services (thats right, plural, see below), and
> > it is a little scary from a security perspective.
> >
> > http://rgov.org/road-runners-dns-wildcard
> >
> > Basically RoadRunner is using an open HTTP GET request, and no
> > SSL, for your "Preferences" page. It is possible for anyone to
> > request the "Preferences"
> > page for every single customer, and with this information you gain
> > the geographical location of every single RoadRunner customer (and
> > thus where to direct your own ISP's advertising to best effect,
> > especially if you don't redirect "failed DNS requests"
> > to an advertising page).
> >
> > But RoadRunner has not one but *three* new services you can opt
> > into or out of. Services which, when their options are set very
> > unfavorably to the customer, result in an interesting and
> > profitable situation for Internet Advertisers, and in particular a
> > certain class of advertiser.
> >
> > # Web Address Error Redirect Service:
> > (the service everyone is complaining about, which sends you to a
> > page containing ads from advertisers who are advertising with
> > RoadRunner)
> >
> > # Typo Correction Service:
> > (fixes common typos in URLs, such as cmo or nte)
> >
> > But the third one should be of some concern for those with small
> > children:
> >
> > # Safe Search Filter:
> > "This preference allows you to restrict adult-oriented content
> > from search results on the non-existing domain landing service."
> >
> > Since there are only approximately 16,777,216 MAC addresses the
> > way RoadRunner is handling the service, you could write a script
> > which, for example, opted every RoadRunner customer *into* "Web
> > Address Error Redirect Service", *out of* "Typo Correction Service"
> > (which increases the possibility that the RoadRunner "Failed DNS
> > Request" page will pop up), and *out of* "Safe Search Filter". And
> > it wouldn't take long to run the script, or be much trouble to run
> > it once a week.
> >
> > And then you, as the owner of "Adult Content Website Advertising
> > Consortium", then use the advertising revenue you collect from your
> > adult website members to buy HUGE amounts of adult content web
> > advertising.
> > Every time a RoadRunner customer mistypes a URL, or types in a
> > non-existent URL, the RoadRunner page will pop up and send adult
> > content advertising related to the customer's failed URL request
> > (Rule #34 of the
> > Internet: "If it exists, there is porn of it.").
> >
> > You don't even need to be an adult content advertising consortium.
> > Just pay for "first placement" on the RoadRunner Ad Page...err, I
> > mean "Failed DNS Request Page", and then run the script opting
> > every RoadRunner customer *into* "Web Address Error Redirect
> > Service"
> > and *out of* "Typo Correction Service". The RoadRunner customer
> > will see the RoadRunner "Failed DNS Request Page" more often than
> > they would like to see it, and your ads will be seen more often
> > than any other ad.
> >
> > Spam has proven that many Internet Advertisers have no shame,
> > decency, and/or ethics. This move by RoadRunner will be exploited,
> > and exploited soon, and with any luck the complaints from customers
> > (and the lawsuits from parents) will bring it to an end fairly
> > quickly.
> >
> >
> >
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