Stop editing the damn subject (was Re: The End Of WesternCivilization (was Re: RoadRunner nonsense (was Re: fwd: RE: STFU RE))

Geoffrion, Ron P [IT] Ron.Geoffrion at sprint.com
Mon Mar 3 16:00:44 CST 2008


Not really.

 RFC1855 - Status - Informational.

http://www.rfc.net/rfc1855.html


- Mail should have a subject heading which reflects
      the content of the message.

- Subject lines should follow the conventions of the group.

<top posted with full content by a business user - another irritant on this list - LOL!>

Thanks,

Ron Geoffrion
913.488.7664

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

-----Original Message-----
From: kclug-bounces at kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces at kclug.org] On Behalf Of Phil Thayer
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:34 PM
To: kclug at kclug.org
Subject: RE: Stop editing the damn subject (was Re: The End Of WesternCivilization (was Re: RoadRunner nonsense (was Re: fwd: RE: STFU RE))

Is that going against some kind of standard or RFC to change the subject line of a threaded messages thus sending the email off to some other thread that may not be related to what the thread was originally meant to be?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kclug-bounces at kclug.org
> [mailto:kclug-bounces at kclug.org] On Behalf Of Billy Crook
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:58 PM
> To: Leo Mauler
> Cc: kclug at kclug.org
> Subject: Stop editing the damn subject (was Re: The End Of
> WesternCivilization (was Re: RoadRunner nonsense (was Re:
> fwd: RE: STFU RE))
>
> See, now isn't that annoying?  Cut it out, for the love of god.  There
> is a reason emails have subject lines.  It's so I can mute them in
> gmail, and not be bothered with that thread again.  When people change
> the subject line it pollutes everyone's inbox, and breaks threaded
> reading and sorting.  Stop It.  Stop it now.  Internet pollution kills
> baby seals.
>
> If you're going to change the subject line, change the damn subject,
> and write a completely different unrelated email.
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Leo Mauler <webgiant at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > --- Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins at tarcanfel.org> wrote:
> >
> >  > On Tuesday 26 February 2008 13:06:06 Billy Crook  > wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > If one were to look at how their opt-out page  > > works, you
> > http get with a few args, one of  > > which is your modem's mac
> > address.  You could  > > just as easily post with any other cable  >
> > > modem's mac address, if say, you had multiple,  > > and didn't
> > want to visit each physical location  > > of them, or maybe ....
> >  >
> >  > ... you could just type the correct url in the  > first place.
> >  >
> >  > Yes, it's annoying.  No, it's not the end of Western  >
> > Civilization.
> >  >
> >  > Get a grip, guys.
> >
> >  It may not be the end of Western Civilization, but its  certainly
> > being handled very insecurely by RoadRunner.
> >
> >  This guy (blogger link below) has done some poking  around and
> > discovered how RoadRunner is going about  the "opt-in/opt-out"
> > process for its new services  (thats right, plural, see below), and
> > it is a little  scary from a security perspective.
> >
> >  http://rgov.org/road-runners-dns-wildcard
> >
> >  Basically RoadRunner is using an open HTTP GET  request, and no
> > SSL, for your "Preferences" page.  It  is possible for anyone to
> > request the "Preferences"
> >  page for every single customer, and with this  information you gain
> > the geographical location of  every single RoadRunner customer (and
> > thus where to  direct your own ISP's advertising to best effect,
> > especially if you don't redirect "failed DNS requests"
> >  to an advertising page).
> >
> >  But RoadRunner has not one but *three* new services  you can opt
> > into or out of.  Services which, when  their options are set very
> > unfavorably to the  customer, result in an interesting and
> > profitable  situation for Internet Advertisers, and in particular  a
> > certain class of advertiser.
> >
> >  # Web Address Error Redirect Service:
> >  (the service everyone is complaining about, which  sends you to a
> > page containing ads from advertisers  who are advertising with
> > RoadRunner)
> >
> >  # Typo Correction Service:
> >  (fixes common typos in URLs, such as cmo or nte)
> >
> >  But the third one should be of some concern for those  with small
> > children:
> >
> >  # Safe Search Filter:
> >  "This preference allows you to restrict adult-oriented  content
> > from search results on the non-existing domain  landing service."
> >
> >  Since there are only approximately 16,777,216 MAC  addresses the
> > way RoadRunner is handling the service,  you could write a script
> > which, for example, opted  every RoadRunner customer *into* "Web
> > Address Error  Redirect Service", *out of* "Typo Correction Service"
> >  (which increases the possibility that the RoadRunner  "Failed DNS
> > Request" page will pop up), and *out of*  "Safe Search Filter".  And
> > it wouldn't take long to  run the script, or be much trouble to run
> > it once a  week.
> >
> >  And then you, as the owner of "Adult Content Website  Advertising
> > Consortium", then use the advertising  revenue you collect from your
> > adult website members to  buy HUGE amounts of adult content web
> > advertising.
> >  Every time a RoadRunner customer mistypes a URL, or  types in a
> > non-existent URL, the RoadRunner page will  pop up and send adult
> > content advertising related to  the customer's failed URL request
> > (Rule #34 of the
> >  Internet: "If it exists, there is porn of it.").
> >
> >  You don't even need to be an adult content advertising  consortium.
> > Just pay for "first placement" on the  RoadRunner Ad Page...err, I
> > mean "Failed DNS Request  Page", and then run the script opting
> > every RoadRunner  customer *into* "Web Address Error Redirect
> > Service"
> >  and *out of* "Typo Correction Service".  The  RoadRunner customer
> > will see the RoadRunner "Failed  DNS Request Page" more often than
> > they would like to  see it, and your ads will be seen more often
> > than any  other ad.
> >
> >  Spam has proven that many Internet Advertisers have no  shame,
> > decency, and/or ethics.  This move by  RoadRunner will be exploited,
> > and exploited soon, and  with any luck the complaints from customers
> > (and the  lawsuits from parents) will bring it to an end fairly
> > quickly.
> >
> >
> >
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