Proposed Web site redesign (beta)

Chris Bier chris.bier at cymor.com
Tue Nov 9 12:55:55 CST 2004


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Steven Hildreth wrote:
| Is w3/wia and w3/HTML compliance a requirement of the replacement
| offering? Never was mentioned to me when I offered to create a new
| modern, dynamic replacement site.
|
| No CMS stock package I have found (I have tested several for a
| previous project including; PhpNuke, PostNuke, Slashcode, eGroupare,
| Mambo, and XOOPS) generates either w3/wia or w3/HTML compliant code.
|
| My position is that if it renders well in Mozilla, Firefox, Konqueror
| and IE that is ensuring a wide enough target audience. Sure the Links
| guys will get pissed, but realistically I think we should ensure
| operability with the 99% audience - not degrade the overall visual
| impression for all to appease the 1%
|
| Other opinions?
|
| Regards,
| Steven (Tallen)
|
|
|
| On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 11:33:06 -0600, Jason Clinton
<me at jasonclinton.com> wrote:
|
|>Steven Hildreth wrote:
|>
|>>Hi,
|>>
|>>I am working on updating the KcLUG website to be a dynamic content
|>>site via the XOOPS engine, other than a few graphics needed here and
|>>there I think it is ready for beta-viewing by the group.
|>
|>I like the look but the use of tables as a formating tool is explicitly
|>discouraged by the powers that be: http://www.w3.org/WAI/
|>
|>Specifically, the goal is to make the site make sense when read
|>linearly. (As if you were looking at the site in lynx.)
|>
|>Here is an analysis of the new page:
|>http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/bobbyServlet?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kclug.org%2F%7Eshildreth%2Fmodules%2Fnews%2F&output=Submit&gl=wcag1-aaa&test=
|>
|>Here's some other troubles with the content:
|>http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kclug.org%2F%7Eshildreth%2Fmodules%2Fnews%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=HTML+4.01+Transitional
|>
|>As far as I know, there are no CMS's that use CSS as a layout tool --
|>CSS can addresses the WAI guidelines and allow the site to still look
|>attractive. I would love to know of any CMS's that do use CSS for
|>layout, though. Anyone?

I've already proposed this to the IRC channel, but why don't we work on
making XOOP standards compliant?  It would be a good LUG project.  We'd
be helping ourselves and others.  I'm willing to help, but I won't be
able to devote much time to it.

Chris
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