SCO shills: de Tocqueville Institute
Brian Kelsay
bkelsay at comcast.net
Sun May 23 21:05:11 CDT 2004
Monty J. Harder wrote:
> "Brian Kelsay" <BLKELSAY at kcc.usda.gov> wrote:
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>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/20/tanenbaum_on_adti_brown/
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>>Tanenbaum almost redeemed himself until the end when he started being a
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> jerk again.
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> I disagree. I think he's coming from an academic perspective, where there
> is a certain way that you provide attribution to the others who explored the
> territory you're working in. Linux exists because Thompson, Ritchie, and
> Kernighan built an operating system and programming language on principles
> that were pretty radical at the time, and people like Stallman and
> Tannenbaum made it accessible after AT&T tried to close it off. We
> sometimes knock RMS for being an extremist, but I think we all respect his
> intellectual consistency. I think AST deserves similar regard. He may be
> an uncompromising SOB, but he sticks to his principles.
>
> He's come right out and said that Linus did him a favor, taking away all
> the people who wanted him try to make Minix do more things. Minix was never
> intended to be a production operating system - it has to be something that
> people can learn in one semester. It uses a microkernel because AST is a
> True Believer in microkernels. He argues that any loss of efficiency caused
> by use of a microkernel is roughly equivalent to using last-years' processor
> speed, in exchange for a fundamentally more secure design. His biggest beef
> with Linu{s|x} is the use of a monolithic kernel. While AST remains pure
> to microkernel architecture, and RMS to Free-As-In-Freedom software, Linus
> is willing to compromise for the sake of efficiency, pulling into kernel
> space functions that would in theory be user-land, and requiring patch
> submissions via BitKeeper.
You are being very insightful and I must admit, you probably know more
about Tannenbaum than I. It's definitely easier to listen to you in
email at a reasonable volume. ;-)
I hope Tannenbaum doesn't feel like he was cheated out of a fortune
because much of Unix is taught on Linux at Univ. these days. To me that
is how he has sounded, but I may be mistaken. I found it very funny
that AST defended Linus' work and revealed the incompetence of the
interviewer. The guy was obviously fishing for dirt on the creation of
Linux.
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