Fedora

[Leo J Mauler]

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:23:28 -0600 Jonathan Hutchins
<hutchins at tarcanfel.org> writes:
> On Monday 10 November 2003 02:59 pm, Leo J Mauler wrote:
> 
> > Of course, I've been using Mandrake for most systems 
> > for the past few years.  Now that RedHat has droped its 
> > consumer support and apparently altered Fedora to no 
> > longer include important packages, Mandrake might now 
> > follow suit.  Mandrake dropped the Pine package as of 
> > version 9 (hence the headaches).
> 
> While I consider familiarity with vi to be equivalent to literacy 
> in the linux world (with emacs being an acceptable substitute, 
> rather like Canadian French), I think Pine is one of the true 
> essentials.  I think you need the ability to yell for help if you 
> can't get your system all the way up to GUI mode.

Mutt tends to get installed by default, and its almost as easy to use as
Pine.  Also, I remember using mailx at some point, and it wasn't too
terrible.

> Having said that, I haven't had the chance to discover that Pine 
> was missing from Mandrake because I've been too busy trying 
> to learn the GUI.

Well, I disliked most of the GUI text editors and GUI mail readers (this
was pre-Evolution) so Pine and Pico in a terminal window was how I
interacted with E-Mail and text editing even in the GUI.

> What say a couple of us who know how to build an RPM 
> get together and start building some essential elements of 
> the distribution that DON'T  require "club membership"?

If you drop Nano onto a system yourself, and select Mutt as an E-mail
program during initial installation, you don't need to drop anything else
on the system for the basic users who haven't reached the GUI yet.

Besides, a beginner who doesn't reach the GUI on the first install might
as well re-install before trying to contact someone who does volunteer
customer support.

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