Battle for bandwidth

[Ray Hanes]

I know I can do all these things. And am. I ain't dumb

My problem was 1 They aren't supporting linux (No big deal now because I got it working)

And 2 they are charging all kinds of folks an extra 7 bucks and people are too stupid to realize 
that they aren't getting anything for the money.

If we could all push these issues we may just be able to get some extra bandwidth for a few extra 
$$$
----- Original Message ----- 
From: KC Netcare 
To: tony at hammitt.com 
Cc: Linux User Grp 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Battle for bandwidth

There are ways to determine if someone is masking layer 3 (IP) addresses. Just snoop the MAC 
address in the packets, only takes a bit of processing power. Tony is correct, never ask for it, 
try it and see what happens.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tony Hammitt 
Cc: Linux User Grp 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Battle for bandwidth

That seems pretty strange, why not just tell them that you're
just running one box and use a router?  How do they know how
many boxes are behind it?

Screw 'em; Lie.

There is no way to tell, from the other end, whether something
is one box or another behind a port-forwarding router.  That's
what they're there for...

Don't worry about it, they don't have any right to search your
house for other hosts.  It's not worth their time.

Regards,

Tony

> Ray Hanes wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am new to this group again. About six months ago I unsubscribed so now I'm back.
> 
> I'm sure that you are all aware of the battle going on right now between the tech guys like 
myself and you folks. Right now they are battling because every PC you plug in they want you to pay 
for. Reciently I asked them why that is. The response I got went something like this:
> 
> Cable Modem tech: We charge you for the extra banwidth that it takes for the extra PC.
> 
> ME: Ok but you aren't providing me with any extra bandwith if I hit the max no matter if it is 
one PC or two you aren't providing me with anything.
> 
> CMT:  Yes sir but we also provide you with a second IP address.
> 
> ME: Yes you do but right now your system is failing to assign a second IP and if I could just get 
the Linux support for DNS on your system (like they used to provide for a static IP) then I could 
just run that!"
> 
> CMT: We do not provide support for Linux because they are only a small piece of the user group. 
(And they wern't going to say it I know but they also don't like the fact that linux makes a pretty 
cheap and easy router)
> 
> ME: OK all I want is to hook up this PC to the internet and I don't care anymore I'll pay the 7 
bucks and not worry about it.
> 
> CMT: Currently because of a change in service from the "@yo momas place" to the "werestupid.net" 
we can't support more that one IP.
> 
> ME: So how am I supposed to hook up two PC's then!
> 
> CMT: Well sir you can get a router and hook that up. (Well then provide the instructions for easy 
DHCP for your system) That will allow you to add the extra PC's
> 
> ME: But you people have told me numerous times that is a violation of terms of service?
> 
> CMT: Well yes but not if you pay for the extra PC's
> 
> 
> 
> Summary:  Well isn't this nice for the cable modem companies. Not only do they make more money 
for each PC but they don't do anything for it. (This argument could be made for software too but 
you do gain the ability to use that software on another PC) In this case they are taking dollars 
from me and then pushing everything on the users. They don't provide extra IP because my router is 
the only thing connecting to them. And what my processor on my router does with that information 
such as pass packets to another pc is none of their business.
> 
> Just putting this out for all to see. If there is anyone who is interested in taking this up with 
me and putting it to these cable modem companies email me.
> 
> We won the software battle and well win this to. You want to know why? Because were smarter than 
they are!!
> 
> If you found the above comment offensive then your playing for the wrong team!!

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