Flawed Logic [WAS: Secure Linux install ]

[Brian Densmore]

> >Well, your analogy is flawed. If people are hacking into you 
> system, it
> >is more like did you leave your front door open with a list of
> >valuables, and where they are, sitting on the entry way table.
> 
> Now your logic is flawed.  Even if you only have a flimsy 
> doorknob lock on
> your house, it is just as much breaking and entering as if you have a
> state-of-the-art security system.  If you didn't invite John 
> Q. Public into
> your house, he can't legally be in there, and you can have 
> him arrested for
> trespassing.
> 
I never said it wasn't a criminal act. Just that the fireproof furniture
analogy was bad. You can leave your door, 
wide open and it is still illegal entry and malicious mischief and/or
theft.
But if you leave your door wide open every day, you shouldn't expect to
have
all of your possessions for long.

> but if you have to circumvent obvious security measures 
> (however weak they
> are), you are doing something illegal.  Period.
Period.

> Should crackers be congratulated and rewarded for breaking into poorly
> guarded systems?
No, they should be prosecuted and imprisoned. I think, I said that
already. 

> >Although, it is still not right. I would be very pissed if 
> someone broke
> >into my house , or my internet server.
> 
> So would you just stop there if someone broke into your 
> house, or would you
> go to the police and have the person brought to justice?

Nah, neither. I'd just hunt them down like the dawgs they are 
and use 'em for target practice. 

Actually, I think I made the initial recommendation to prosecute 
these criminals. I'm just trying to point out that we should 
use the most secure systems we can. Use our brains and the 
community to build better internet servers, before we unleash
them.