Wine, Whine, installs, and the like

[Steev Johnson]

Unfortunately, I have to deal with MAC OS too much already thank you. 

It must be great to know everything.

sj

-----Original Message-----
From: D. Hageman [mailto:dhageman at dracken.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:27 PM
To: Steev Johnson
Cc: kclug at kclug.org
Subject: Re: Wine, Whine, installs, and the like

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Steev Johnson wrote:

> I saw the posts on WINE and I thought about the fact that the only way

> I can bear installing software on Linux is to drink some wine first.  
> Now

Well, if that is what you have to do then that is what you have to do.
I 
recommend that if you think that you are becomming an alcoholic you
switch 
to Mac OS.  :-)

> Well, so does Linux.

No.

Depends on the distrobution you run and what the philosphy is.  If you
get 
a BSD style distro you will find that you have neat little directories
for 
most major pieces of software with the binaries soft linked back into
your 
path.  RPM/DEB based distros do spread files around, but if you know how

to use your package tool you can find the files very easily.

rpm -ql <package>

> Let's take for example the MYSQL package as implemented under Trustix,

> or any other distribution for that matter.  None of the RPMS really 
> WORK to get it installed, there is still tons of Mickey mouse to make 
> it work
> - if it ever does. 

Well, sounds like you need to write the maintainers of the RPM and let 
them know that their RPMs are broken.

> trying to figure out why safe_mysqld hangs.   What every happened to
the
> glorious days of DOS when everything was in the same %$&! directory!? 
> What was wrong with that?

Nothing, see above.

> 
> Yes, I understand the shared data and the centralized config 
> can/should be somewhere else, but this is just a mess!  Whether it 
> gets installed under /usr/bin or /usr/shared or usr/local or whatever 
> seems to depend on how someone was feeling that day.  Much like 
> windows.  At least with windows, I KNOW there are only a couple places

> other than the app directory that they are going to dump DLLs and the 
> like.

And why ... because you have run Windows for so long.  It is called 
experience.

> cobol.  If I can't figure this stuff out easily, how is the average 
> sysop ever going to be able to deal with this?

No matter how I answer this question it will be bad.  I will pass ;-)

Have fun!

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