> -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Kelsay > partition. They still need permission to do this. As has > been said, if a person has physical access to a machine and > either a boot floppy or LiveCD, the box can be 0wned in a > matter of moments. Knoppix might take a bit longer due to > its long boot time, unless I were to boot directly to the CLI. Well how long it takes to 0wn a machine depends on whether or not the filesystem is encrypted, and other factors. It's quite possible to build fairly secure desktops that it would take quite a bit of effort to 0wn and still be user friendly. Some possible configurations are: 1) Burn Linux into a EEPROM and cut the trace to prevent "accidental" rewriting. 2) Install the base system on a small older HD and disable the write pin on the HD or connector. 3) install Linux on a memory stick and make it read only. 4) Install Linux on a CD and run it from there. Each of the above solutions of course means having a "user" HD for storing dynamic data. Of course this won't stop a determined cracker, but will knock out most all of the script kiddies and also has the advantage of requiring physical access to the machine to 0wn it. That is not to say that a crafty cracker couldn't install a Trojan in to RAM, but if any of the above options was configured correctly a monitoring program would detect and remove such programs.