Ok first mistake I found in this writer's article: 'The truth is that we don't have Oracle or Java for "Linux" but for some "certified" distributions, in essence, conceptually "different Windows contenders". So, at the end of the day, a "Linux application" is source code that you expect to compile on most distributions, and the kernel alone is not granted to make it compile, the host will probably need a concrete shell and a precise set of shell utilities. It's not uncommon to find out that a make script calls some shell utility that our distribution of choice doesn't happen to have. When we refer to a "Windows" application, we refer to a program that we expect to run in any kind of "Windows" flavour [sic] (unless it is a specialized software that needs some special feature of the NT kernel series such certain server applications). If I have a CD-ROM Encyclopedia for Windows I expect to run it without problems on Windows 95, 98, ME, XP, 2000, etc. If I have the same product for Linux, it will be compatible with very specific distributions and if the software is in binary form it will probably brake after some years because we all know that binary longevity in Linux is not granted.' 1) This is simply not true. All of the distributions I've used of late have a software install mechanism that installs let's an application and it works, period. While this is certainly not true of "every possible" application. It is mostly true for the mainstream applications. 2) It is certainly *NOT* true that you can go down to the store and buy say Microsoft office and run it on Windows 95,98,ME, XP,2000, etc. You may be able to run it on some of them, but you have to read the side of the box that tells you which versions are supported. It may be that it will run on any version from 95 thru to XP. It may tell you it only runs on NT, XP or 2000 and still work in 98 or ME. It's just as likely it won't. I know my Oracle 8 server will most certainly *NOT* run on 95,98 or ME, period. Conclusion: So that argument fails, and I've only skimmed the first page. If, city governments can run Linux desktops (Munich,Barcelona,and Largo for starters) then it is certainly ready for the desktop. This argument that Linux is not "ready for the desktop" is only so much FUD. While I will agree there is still much to do, it's really a simple matter of buying a shrink-wrapped version of the software and install it on every machine that needs it. I of course do it all the hard way. Which brings me to a further point. Debian *ROCKS* as a server distribution. This morning I ran 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' and it updated apache and my mail packages shutting down the services one by one and restarting them. Bada-bing, bada-boom. No restart. No crash. No extra baggage. It just worked. MNSHO, Brian "The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else." --Theodore Roosevelt, Kansas City Star, May 7, 1918 > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Kelsay > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7813 > > Rant, discuss, enjoy. There are a few points in there I > agree with, but I won't say which unless you stick hot pokers > in my eyes. > > Brian Kelsay > > >