All I can say is, WTF? How do you relate those two things? Have you been listening to the black helicopter radio shows again? If anything, it reminds us of NICs, sound and video chips getting added to the motherboard. Not always a good thing, but sometimes makes sense. Now that most sound chips are equal, it saves headaches of adding another card. Not always true with NICs as I hate the Realtek chips, but for your average PC user they don't notice the quality difference. Brian Kelsay >>> Leo J Mauler <> 05/14/04 04:29AM >>> Wow, an onboard firewall. Kinda reminds me of Intel putting those serial numbers on their CPUs.