You can always surf with a browser that doesn't have Java activated. My work PC has IE with Java enabled. I use Firefox without Java, Flash, and Shockwave. I just got sick of the ads that flash like I'm sitting in an old black and white B movie. That said, I've never seen a Java virus. Brian Kelsay >>> Kendrick-LUG 04/25/04 09:23PM >>> I was wondering if any one had decent success with squid to keep java viruses out? more for win32 but for some reason they are really getting prevolant