Just me, but I wouldn't automatically log them out after 5 minutes of inactivity. If it kept them logged in and chewed up their hours faster, they would soon develop the habit of logging out when they were done, which is a good computing habit to have. You figure if everything you are talking about is in place, the most it would chew up is an hour at a time anyway. - Kevin "cwgee9801-RR" To Sent by: "kclug" owner-kclug@kclug cc .org Subject Re: "Cyber cafe" timekeeping 03/15/2004 10:16 software AM > Why go to all this trouble? This is a Linux pc we're talking about? > Just modify the kids accounts, so that they have the time and time of > day restrictions, then turn on accounting and you'll have your > 'administrator' tracking of they're online times. (( P.S. I won't trouble the list with this topic again. Already got some suggestions. So just keep your eyes open for me if you will. Thanks.)) You're probably right, but I'm new to Linux and am missing how this would be done. The three issues I can't figure out for using Linux alone are (1) kids will be using a Windows machine not Linux, (2) restrictions more complex than the administrator account offers, and (3) some other unique restrictions such as maximum connection time followed by a mandatory "break". The two boys would be using only a Windows machine where all their high performance games and applications are -- not Linux. . So there would need to be a way to "pass through" their account info to a Linux connection server for an internet connection. They could do this, alright. In fact, the Windows machine may be WAP connected. Also, I need automatic time keeping based on elepased hours. In other words, I would give them each 10 hours at the beginning of the week, they could use them on demand within certain restrictions. I would not need to monitor their elapsed time, time of day access, or length of session. When they've been on for an hour, they're automatically off for 30 minutes (for example). And when total time used accumulates to the limit, they're off for the week. Other restrictions. (1) Between hours of 3:00pm and 9:00pm weekdays, probably 9:00am-9:00pm weekends and holidays. (2) No more than one hour at a time, with a 30 minute break between sessions. Would also like a "time out" feature, e.g., 5 minutes and no keyboard activity = log them out of the access system. Around the country I've sometimes bought wireless time and the features I'm after seem to mimic the cyber cafe model. But ... I'll keep reading. (Yes, I know, RTFM .... ) --- Will Cook willcook@att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Densmore" To: "cwgee9801-RR" Cc: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:38 AM Subject: RE: "Cyber cafe" timekeeping software . No obtrusive > parental control software. It just logs them off when the time comes. > And best of all it's free as in beer! > > -----Original Message----- > From: admin kclinux net > > I have a friend that uses this. Not free, but only $35 if you decide to use > it. > > http://www.kidswatch.com/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kclug@kclug.org [mailto:owner-kclug@kclug.org] On Behalf Of > cwgee9801-RR > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 11:16 AM > To: kclug > Subject: "Cyber cafe" timekeeping software > > I'm trying to find a solution for kids PC online use without constant > monitoring and arguing. So I'm considering implementing a "cyber cafe" > accounting system at home to regulate my two kids online access. They think > it is a terrible idea. I think it is a good one. Ideally, the software would > allow me to credit them with xx hours per week, and they could have their > online use within other restrictions ... no more than x hours in any one > day, no more than one hour without a one hour "break", no use after 9:00pm > and so on. They would know their limits and could pace their own use > accordingly. > > Sounds like a job for a linux router that controls the WAP. > (Note: The PC they use already runs a kid filter and keystroke monitor that > I personally review, often. The PC has a nice video card and runs WinXP, > as almost all their games run under Windows. > > I'm checking Sourceforge for suitable software and a reasonable hardware > configuration. Trying to see if this is practical. Any experience or > comments > invited. > > --- > Will Cook willcook@att.net > > > > > > >