After rererereading the specs/stuff involved I see that you don't NEED two internal nets. I agree w/ Brian. You should have just said I have these IPs available, these in use, want to load balance to the internet and have this many in the DMZ. Your first 2 posts were confusing, but we are used to that. I have experience talking to sales and marketing guys and I understand legalese. Brian Kelsay >>> "Brian Densmore" <> 03/05/04 09:15AM > Ok this is really a complex situation. I already have a headache, but let me give it another shot. I think what you need is something like this. The firewall is a linux PC doing load balancing with 4 nics, one to each isp, one to your dmz and one to your internal pix which is connected to your internal network. Hope this helps, Brian