And I only got one flame about the Penguin Joke. Now I'm sad. I thought that Jim had a valid posting. While it was not for a specific job and I don't agree w/ moveon's message or the way they present it, it appears they are making an honest attempt to match some people up with jobs. I might have trimmed the original posting a bit, but it didn't get me as enflamed as others. Hi Jim. For the new guy who posted a dup. message and then tried to retract it and scurry away: We're not as mean as we sound. ;-) We just came off a spam and virus server message onslaught and people are a bit skittish about the volume of mail that comes through here. In the future, if you have a hot topic you want to post, check the current mail queue and see if someone else has beat you to it. Then if you have something to add, it can go under the same thread as the original poster. Thanks. Continue. ---------------------------------------------- Somewhere there is a village missing an idiot.