Jason Clinton wrote: > There is an appropriate balance barrier however and I > believe it wasn't even remotely approached by Jim's post. > Thanks for this defense Jason. I felt that the post was perhaps borderline, but mostly relevant. One of the profile questions was checking to see if you understood regular expressions, and another question on valid HTML. So, they are looking for people like some on this list. This post was about jobs for geeks, like myself, and most others on this list. It is not a particular job opening, per se, but rather about a matching of people with geek skills, leadership ability, and communication skills with organizations, yes probably liberal activist organizations, that really need help from people with this rare combination of skills. If you don't have all three of these skill sets, don't pursue this opportunity. If your political leanings are to the right, you probably would not be a good match for these organizations, but you are certainly welcome to help out. At this point, we don't even know what the organizations will be. At this point, it's an experiment to see if there really are people out there with all those skills. I feel that I have each of those skills, although some may disagree with me on various parts of the skill set. I am, no doubt, deeper in some than in others, and maybe not great at any one of them, but I feel reasonably balanced between the three. I know from reading the posts on this list for years that there are other people on this list who do have at least two of these skills, and I was targeting those people with my post. It's hard to judge leadership through a mailing list, but the other two are easy to identify, and I know some of you out there have both technical and communication skills and even a few with left leaning politics. ;-) I also know there are people on this list who are deep in only one of these skills, and, assuming you recognize this in yourself, should not apply for this opportunity. And that's OK to be strictly technical. I totally respect and admire that. Everybody has their part to play, and the world is not exactly flush with deep technical thinkers, so it's good to have you around. So, you see, it really was more about geekdom, than politics. The fact that MoveOn.org is a progressive organization, is only a side note. It was definitely not political content. Oh, I could fire some political content about the government, especially of the last several years, but I will hold my tongue, in deference to the list. In the future, please read and understand the whole message before making judgments about the appropriateness of a particular post. In fact, I just reread the message, and the MoveOn.org message says nothing about the political leanings. If I hadn't added that warning at the beginning about the right deep end, would it have contained any politics at all? In addition, I think that Linux users tend to be activists of a sort. They may, or may not be politically active, but most of us are activists for freedom from the tyranny of Redmond. It's not a huge leap from linux activism to the activism of progressive politics. Yet another reason why I felt it was appropriate. I'm not sending this to my DB2 list, because I don't feel the same way about those people. I feel like you guys care about stuff outside of your job, and are trying to make the world a better place. I don't get that feeling, and my feeling could be completely misguided, but I just don't get that same feeling from most of the DB2 community. The linux world is a special community in that respect. I'm honored to be here. Thank you for your time, Jim Herrmann