Which would explain why the system admin at my former employer got a call at 2AM to remove a virus infected PC from the T-3. The loser PC Tech that is still there, was attempting to test a new OS image. He never did believe in patching Winders w/ the latest and updating virus prot. software on fresh machines. Thought it was a good idea to drop this baby in the server rack on a Friday afternoon before going home. I can't tell this story enough. Guys like this are part of the problem when they should be part of the solution. Brian Kelsay >>> Gerald Combs <> 02/26/04 05:32PM >>> IMO service providers should be happy when people put their stuff behind a NAT device, even if they do use a little more bandwidth. A couple of computers protected behind a SOHO firewall will cause far fewer bandwidth headaches than a single virus/spam vector sitting directly on an exposed connection.