Some people you can give a clue, some try to buy a clue and yet others wouldn't know a clue if it hit them. Hence, the Cluetrain Manifesto. Brian Kelsay >>> "Brian Densmore" <> 02/23/04 12:14PM >>> Yes any paradigm can be done in any language, some are better suited than others, but I still stick to my statement that hardware neurons are better. Wonder if you can still buy them?