Well it's goodbye Gnome. I was reluctant to use kde as my default anything because previous versions were a little bloated. I already had kde 3.2 installed but rarely used it. After seeing all the functunality that kde file manager has I think its going to be my default desktop now as well. And if anyone knows of any services I might be able to disable in kde that won't affect system wide performance I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for the help John