It may be helpful to install the Java "vitrual machine" and "runtime environment". It's a bout twenty megabytes of glop, but at least you can download it seperately from the development pack, at least from Sun. All the different java options can also be multiplied by whether they're Sun java or IBM java. (Didn't Microsoft release some incompatible stuff as "java" too?) HTML. That's all a real geek needs is HTML.