Brian Kelsay wrote: This is a bizarre thread to me. Why don't we all just work for the government so that non of us has to hustle any more and we will all have great benefits and long vacations*. Oh wait isn't that what we fought the cold war to avoid? I started out in business with $20 and lots of hard work - and now both Dems and Republicans are going socialist which will take the opportunities I had away from my kids. I suggest you travel to countries that embrace socialism and see for yourself how great these ideals are in reality - I've seen for myself. Why in the world do so many want to go down a road that has been shown not to work? Why do you want your neighbors to pay your medical bills? *(just like they did in the USSR? -- not) -- -------------------------------------------------- Karl Schmidt EMail Karl@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph(785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX(785) 841-0434 42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot. -------------------------------------------------