Well I finally got around to looking at RH again. I installed RH 9 on my laptop. It installed and runs fine, if a bit slow. It did some strange things though. It has created a strange eth0 configuration, which I haven't found yet. Somewhere in the boot process it adds and address 169.x.0.0 even though I've never told it to use any address like that. It also didn't initialize my network correctly. I had to open up a text editor and modify the configuration files. It didn't detect my soundcard. Granted, only SuSE has ever detected and run my IBM laptop soundcard. Also it doesn't change the environment variables when I su to root. I can't open up filemanager as super user. I basically can't administer my system unless I actually log in as root, instead of just su for the function I need. It didn't create the right ownership on some temp files and I had to open a shell and chown some files to make some things work. Granted I didn't install the gnome desktop, so maybe they pay more attention to making the gnome desktop work than the kde desktop. Next I will reinstall Redhat and try the gnome desktop again. Further rants to come, I'm sure. ;) Now Fedora is an unstable release right? Brian