Just to drag this OT discussion a little further: How many of you have actually implemented a NEW Novell solution in the last three years? I mean a Novell server where either a Microsoft server or no server at all existed, particularly a Novell server in an environment where no Novell software was previously running? Have any of you replaced an NT or 2000 server with a Novell server running on equivalent hardware (no more than 1 year age difference)? Have you migrated an application such as mail from Microsoft or other software to a Novell product? (I mean end-user application, not "network management".) If you did the above, why the heck didn't you use Linux?