Hello all: This concludes the threads: Taking the Plunge Taking the Plunge Version 1.1 and Taking the Plunge-Still I have a fully operationg SuSE 8.2 system up and running and I am writing this e-mail from Kmail :-) Thanks for all that helped me get here and for all the suggestions made. I am still doing tweaking however, and need some help. I am wanting to run an MSN messenger client and the included Kopete crashes... I downloaded a newer client called AMSN and wanted to use it but it needs compiled (is only source) never done this... has a makefile and just need direction on how to compile her... I suppose it is gcc that I will be using :-) Thanks, -- J. Mike Needham jmneedham@kc.rr.com Shawnee, KS 66214