The STEVEN system for eliminating spam looks very keen. Whoever decided to use it for KCLUG, thanks. You may want to know there is a very fine local effort that does the same thing, being created by a member of the LUG, David Nicol: http://www.pay2send.com It's still in beta, but when it is finished, I propose KCLUG uses it. -Jared p.s. Darwin had been working on 'Origin of the Species' for several years; it was unfinished. Another scientist sent him a manuscript of the same idea for him to review, and he realized that someone else was going to steal his thunder. So he quickly finished the Origin of the Species, and the rest is history. Trivia: Who was that obscure scientist who finished the theory of evolution before Darwin did? and why was Darwin already a world-famous writer? and what part of the human body made Darwin later recant his theory as being unable to explain? Hint: you're using it right now to read this e-mail, unless you're reading it in braille.