Jonathan Hutchins wrote:

> On Friday 08 August 2003 5:59 pm, Brian Kelsay wrote:
> 
> 
>>Mandrake is famous for the hidden (non-standard) config files. 
> 
> 
> Actually, in my experience running Mandrake for several years, over several 
> new installations, the standard config files are either where they are 
> expected to be, or are easily found using 'locate'.  I haven't had any 
> problems using them, but I rarely rely on the GUI "Wizards".  If I wanted 
> Wizards I'd go with Windows - they do 'em better.
> 

Probably because you didn't even install the wizards you had no problem. 
  I was on the Mandrake newbie list for about a year, learning and 
helping people and this came up frequently.  They may have fixed it, I 
don't know.

> What is it with you guys running pre-packaged firewalls anyway?  I thought the 
> whole Linux spirit was to customise the rules yourself.  I've never found one 
> of these pacages that was any closer to what I wanted than a raw installation 
> that I could set the chains on myself.
> 

It's hard to be sure you got your ipchains or iptables right the first 
go around.  Rather than have my boxen become cracker heaven and due to 
lack of time I go w/ a pre-packaged solution and add my specifics to it 
later as I learn more.  I was happy w/ freesco for almost 2 years and 
then the latest version started spewing DNS errors to the logs and 
various other craziness.  I had my ipchains all set, but I dropped it 
and moved to IPCop and haven't regretted it.  It has Red Hat 7.3 as the 
base distro and I can figure more stuff out.  Freesco used loadlin and 
was made to fit on a floppy, so lots of stuff was missing that I was 
used to.

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