On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Hanasaki JiJi wrote:

> Oh.. and if you are DSL with PPOE, then you cannot run a server because 
> the ip address on your computer is not the one seen by the external 
> world.  You are NATed by the DSL.

DSL spans layers 1 & 2 (the physical and data link layers).  NAT spans
layers 3 & 4 (network and transport).  DSL can't force you to use NAT any
more than Ethernet can.  If you are being NATted it's becuase your
provider _chose_ to.