What is your power supply make and wattage? Sometimes this occurs when you
don't have enough power.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kclug@marauder.illiana.net
[mailto:owner-kclug@marauder.illiana.net]On Behalf Of Matt G
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:41 AM
To: Phoenician; Kclug
Subject: Re: IDE issues <consolidated responses from several sources>

My old K6 233 does this too.   But only sometimes.  All I have in there is a
4gb drive and a 24x cdrom (on the ide's anyway.)   I have both of them on
the same ide cable, and they have to be setup a certain way.  If I leave one
off, or switch them around, no spin up.  And sometimes, I have to just keep
turning the computer on and off to get the hdd to spin up.  (It's a brand
new hdd.)  It's my little server, so I just leave it on anyway.

I know that didn't help...but at least you're not alone.

Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phoenician" <phoenician@phoenixcolony.com>
To: "Kclug" <kclug@kclug.org>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: IDE issues <consolidated responses from several sources>

> <snip>
> >From Brian:
>
> > Check the jumper settings on the HD?
> >  (Bad jumper settings can potentially damage both the PC and the HD)
>
> I had the HD set to master, then I tried cable select.
>
>
> > Try a known good cable?
>
> Did that.  I pulled a cable and a different cd-rom from one of my many
spare
> pcs.  Same thing.
>
> > Check the jumper settings on the MB?
>
> We called ourselves doing that several times. I have to say though, this
> Intel MB has lousy documentation.
>
> <snip>
>
> >From CDowns:
> >yep 1 of 2 things, the cpu power is not set correct ( jumper wise ) or
> >the power supply power is not on the right voltage.
>
> No jumper settings. This board was made specifically for a P4.
>
> <snip>
>
> >From Jason Clinton
>
> >Tried turning off power management in the BIOS? And you're not
> >pluging/unpluging while the computer is on, are you?
>
> Power management, No we haven't tried turning it off.
> Plugging/Unplugging with the power on? No no no no.  I know better than to
> do that. :)
>
> <snip>
>
> >From Duane:
>
> >The way you describe that, it sounds like you are hot swapping a hard
> drive?
> >Do you mean that the hard drive fails to start spinning when the computer
> >is turned on?  Many of the new larger hard drives require special
> >controllers to physically map the larger medium.  Since the number of
pins
> >used to select the address and data lines stay the same, they might not
be
> >compatible with the older controllers.  The 160GB drive I got came with
> >its own controller and works like a champ.
>
> No, we're not hot swapping the HD. The HD and CD-Rom both fail to spin up
> when the pc is powered up
> as long as the IDE cable is plugged in.  Turn off  the pc, disconnect the
> IDE cable, turn it on and then
> the HD and CD-Rom spin up.  I even swapped the IDE cables with known
working
> cables and I also swapped the
> CD-Rom with one out of another system.
>
>
> Thanks for everyone's input,
>
> Michienne
>
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