On Thu, 22 May 2003, Matt G wrote: > I agree. I have never heard of this before either. Either I'm out of > touch, or it doesn't really matter. Actually, this is a very old rule from the UseNet News days. It used to be that you could count on getting flamed for this form of reply, although I've never heard of it called top posting, until now (seemed like a good name, though). The rational is this: When you post to a news server (or to a mailing list), every byte that you include in your message take up space on servers all over the place. The right thing to do is to edit out signatures and other things that are not relevant to the point you are arguing, and to put your responses to individual points right after the quoted text upon which you are commenting. The real point is not simply to avoid top posting, but rather to avoid taking up unnecessary band width on other people's networks and disk space on other people's servers. Top posting simply showed total cluelessness or contempt for the community. This was back in the days when UseNet News user's were typically aware of the fact that the forum was there because of a lot of news administrators that were donating their time and resources out of the goodness of their hearts. In these days of low-life-scum-sucking- bastard-spammers it doesn't surprise me that most of the people who use the Internet these days have never heard of the traditional rules of netiquette. I think you folks will find that most of us old timers carefully avoid top posting and that we also avoid including quoted signatures and quoted mailing list trailers in our replies, even if we don't always make a big deal of the mistakes that some of you youngsters make because you haven't thought about the implications of what you do. Besides, when I was young, I didn't really want to hear any older people telling me to be polite and considerate, either. We just hope you'll get over it, someday. 8-) One thing I absolutely detest about Lotus Notes is that it all but forces the user to top post. Only a bunch of clueless loser wannabe programmers could ever cook up such a stupid MTA. This is exactly the kind of worse than useless application you should expect from a company that only makes the user interface for MS Windows. I was horrified the first time I realized that Lotus Notes was going to force me to look like a clueless newby. Adrian