I have just installed rh 8 ... very user friendly almost too much... i cant seem to find enlightenment.. as i do not use kde or gnome this puts me at a disadvantage... i want to edit the application menu aka start menu. in enlightenment i would use /etc/X11/.enlightenment/menus/ and make my own but i dont know where in kde or gnome... i would rather use enlightenment but i dont have gnorpm nor linuxconf nor xconfigurator... what are they doing.. removing all the good config tools... what do i use to install downloaded rpm's???? Damon