It took me afew weeks to get used to my sun keyboard... I still have problems with the caps lock being where the Ctrl key is supposed to be (that one just kills me in linux). Kevin Hodle CCNA, Network+, A+ Alexander Open Systems Network Operations Center (913)-307-2367 kevinh@aos5.com -----Original Message----- From: Parker, Ron [mailto:rdparker@butlermfg.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 7:52 PM To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: RE: Things are different here... > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Erickson [mailto:derick@shark.zeni.net] > Right. Try sending an email from Zurich, where the @ sign is > the third > choice on a swiss keyboard key, and shift, alt, ctrl, nor any > combination > of the above give you the @. I thought on a lot of Central and Eastern European keyboards it was just GreyAlt-Q? At least that's worked from the places I've tried it. For Macs it's definitely a different matter. I've seen Internet cafes with step-by-step directions for generating an '@' plastered right on the front of the machine it's so convoluted. If push comes to shove and it is a Windows machine ALT+0064 typed on the number keys works most of the time since '@ is Unicode character 0x0040. Its a dumb way to remember it, but Unicode is twice as bit-wide as ASCII and a 64-bit machine is twice as bit-wide as mine, so I just dream of 64-bits when sending email on a strange keyboard. Hey, I said it was dumb.