On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Monty J. Harder wrote: > > addy. Even opening the email does exactly the same thing. In our > system, > > as soon as someone opens an email (even in the preview pane) I know that > > their addy is valid, and it's kept as valid for future use. > > I'm curious. How, exactly, do you get this information? Easy. Pretend you're a spammer. For each address in your database associate a random string, e.g. "A45HNP54QRR" for "mcurie@iaea.org". When you send a message to that address include a customized link, like so: Make "/images/" point to a piece of code that yanks the string between "/images/" and ".jpeg", and queries it against a database. When mcurie opens your message in her fancy HTML-enabled mail client (or even has her preview pane enabled), your image link gets loaded and you know you have a valid address. Mozilla users can work around this via "Preferences->Privacy & Security-> Do not load remote images in Mail & Newsgroup messages". This has never been a concern for Pine and Mutt users. AFAIK there is no clean fix for Outlook or OE.