_Sigh_ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Jonathan Hutchins" Cc: "KCLUG" Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: RE: Never ceases to amaze > Well gee, maybe there was something ELSE you were missing! > There are other variables than just saying a fully functional install > of Windows (good load, not jacked up) is going just run into a problem > b/c its Windows. It just doesn't happen. As for my experience, its not > a matter as to NEVER running into IDE problems with it, its a matter of > whether I have run into it on a good load of windows with all the right > motherboard drivers installed. With a good load of windows that has the > correct drivers installed and no other software that would mess with > the device installed I have yet to run into problems. Now if you start > throwing in variables like burning software that doesn't work right or > corrupt mobo drivers OF COURSE YOU WILL RUN INTO PROBLEMS, as with ANY > OS. > > As for Roxio, yes its the most popular, no its probably not the least > problematic, but it does have alot of nifty features. During the > rollout of Roxio 5 I was trained here at my company by some Roxio > representatives about problems with it and its features. Yes it had > some messed up problems from the start, but they are easy to get > around. As long as you don't have very first release, and don't install > its hard drive backup utility, you should be fine for the most part, > unless you already have a horked up system. I haven't had trouble with > my Roxio load on my XP machine after I got through the install > problems. > > Yes I know linux comes with free CD burning software, but guess what so > does Windows XP, its integrated with the OS. Granted it lacks most of > the major features of CDRW software, but it does make good data and > audio CDs without any trouble. I just prefer the extra features of > Roxio, plus its a bit quicker. Also don't finger Roxio as the only > burning software solution for Windows. There is also Nero, there is NTI > CD-Maker, and alot of others. Linux also has a variety, and I have a > hard time believing that every single CDRW program in Linux works > flawlessly all the time, from install, and throughout its usage. Now > you have probably run into few problems, but I have run into few with > Roxio on my most recent install of it, which was almost a year ago, > still running with no problems, it even took a brand new DVD-RAM drive > with no problems. And no I didn't pay for Roxio, I got a free copy with > my training. Oh and it doesn't surprise me that Roxio 6 is having alot > of trouble, especially since its got to twist its way through the > device control rights in WinXP and 2k, but Linux doesn't have those > restrictions that have plagued Roxio so many times when working with > Windows XP. Take all that into consideration bub! > > > On 04-10-2003 06:59 am, Jonathan Hutchins > wrote: > > > Quoting pthurmond@kc.rr.com: > > > > > As for installing CDRW drives on Windows 98 or later, I > don't > > > know what you were smoking when you put it together I have never > had a > > > problem with swapping any IDE drives around on Windows, that > includes > > > CDRW and DVD. > > > > Well gee, you could stand to learn something from somebody who has > had > > problems. The fact you haven't seen them indicates more about your > experience > > than about whether the problems are real dude. > > > > >If Roxio is your problem thats a completely different > > > ballpark. We are talking about Windows vs. Linux, not Roxio versus > > > linux. > > > > Not really. Since burning CD's is not the province of the OS, but of > > > applications which must access the hardware through the OS, and since > the > > software withing Linux works while the leading software in Windows > doesn't, I > > assert that it's relevant. > > > > There are plenty of patches for Roxio 6, which is still trashing hard > drives. > > Patches don't help much if the initial install makes your system > unbootable. > > > > My own problems are with Roxio 5, to which I have applied all > available > > patches, which appear to have made the software worse in general. > > > > In this instance, bitching about Roxio is a matter of asserting that > something > > that "just works (tm)" in Linux is something you pay $80 extra for in > Windows - > > and it still doesn't work. Roxio is a prime example of why closed > source > > sucks. > > > > -- > > Jonathan > > Live from Andover, England > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > This mail sent through tarcanfel's horde/imp system > > > > > majordomo@kclug.org > > > > >