If you had read my post, you will know that I was suggesting opera as a
good browser for those sites that DO NOT render at all in
Phoenix/Moz/Netscape.  Now, if your contention is that opera is a "browser
at your own risk" relative to phoenix, ok, sure.  But, if your contention
is that IE is less of a "browser at your own risk",  that's just funny.

Kris

> If any of you follow bugtraq, you will know that opera has had a
> terrible track record of security in its recent releases.  I have seen
> exploits with win32 shellcode, but it would be trivial to port those
> shellcodes to linux.  Also, since opera has been VERY sluggish to fix
> these vulnerabilities, I would say you are using this browser at your
> own risk.
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> Kevin Hodle
> CCNA, Network+, A+
> Alexander Open Systems
> Network Operations Center
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> kevinh@aos5.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: numa@thenuma.com [mailto:numa@thenuma.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:06 AM
> To: kclug@kclug.org
> Subject: Browsers...
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> I am noticing a lot of recommendations for browsers to use in Linux.  We
> all have to first agree that netscape is, well, dated.  A lot of us use
> Mozilla, however, according to the new roadmap, moz is dead.  Phoenix,
> it appears, will supercede the old netscape core.  Great, Phoenix is a
> rocket.  HOWEVER, IE, has become quite entrenched, and there are some
> sites that really suck with phoenix/moz.
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> You all might consider giving opera a spin once again, it is fast,
> standards compliant, and, runs sites that are IE specific like a bat out
> of hell.
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> Just my thoughts.  Kris Bodenheimer
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